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From: "Michael Brennan" <>
Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Maplestown
Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 20:51:48 +0100
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Now the second part of your question.

Ord. S. 7 = Ordnance Survey Map #7.

19A
19B a = these numbers refer to the plot number of the land they leased from
Viscount Beresford.

and the three columns at the end show the size of the plot and the rent and
value of the plot they rented.

The modern spelling of Tinriland is Tinryland.

The Valuation Office in Dublin http://www.valoff.ie/Griffiths.htm is at
Irish Life Buildings, Lower Abbey Street. Here you can get copies of the
section of valuation map that corresponds with the townland you are
researching. Each entry in Griffith's Valuation has a map reference number
and using this number you can pinpoint the house of your ancestor. Once you
have this information you can trace the ownership of the property down
through the decades by consulting the Cancellation Books:
http://www.valoff.ie/Griffiths.htm



Regards

Michael Brennan

Home Page: www.brennan-laois.com
Carlow IGP: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlcar2

----- Original Message -----
From: "The Websters" <>
To: <>
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 10:34 PM
Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Maplestown


Thanks Michael for your 3 replies. I am taking steps to source the
Discovery maps locally, i.e. Sydney, Australia.

I do however come back to the question of the maps quoted with the
Griffith's valuations, or are these the self same Discovery maps? To
reprise the relevant Griffith's information (ref:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cummins/GRIFcarlow.htm):

Barony of Carlow, Poor Law Union of Carlow

Parish of Tullowmagimma

Townland of Tinriland (Ord. S. 7), 545 acres

Map# Occupants Immediate Lessor Description Area Land £ Bldgs £


19 A } Bartholomew Waters Viscount Beresford {Land 5-3-32 6-0-0 ---
19 B a} {House, offices and land 99-3-15 75-0-0 4-5-


In this particular case, what does "Ord. S. 7" and "map numbers 19A and 19B
a" mean?

Can I locate the land that was valued here from this map reference?

[I appreciate now that this does not refer to Maplestown. This man,
Bartholomew Waters, had a daughter Anne whose birth is recorded as at
Maplestown (or, as has been suggested, that could be a mistranscription of
Staplestown) but I would like (an understatement) to be able to locate where
he lived, or at least had this land around 1852.]

The townland of Tinriland was or is relatively small and this land tenancy
is almost one sixth of its area. As I understand, Tinriland is slightly SSE
of Carlow.

Thanks, Bill.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Brennan" <>
To: <>
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 6:12 AM
Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Maplestown


| Maplestown can be found on Map #61 of the OS Discovery Series of Ireland
| about 2½ miles south west of Baltinglass (Co Wicklow) and to the west of
N81
| road.
|
| Regards
|
| Michael Brennan
|
| Home Page: www.brennan-laois.com
| Carlow IGP: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlcar2
|
| ----- Original Message -----
| From: "The Websters" <>
| To: <>
| Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 9:17 AM
| Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Maplestown
|
|
| > Where, please, is Maplestown? No maps that I hqave been able to access
| > show
| > it.
| >
| > The only online references to it that I can find refer to a horse stud
or
| > to
| > a gravel and sand enterprise.
| >
| > Anne (Annie) WATERS was born at Maplestown in 1849 to parents
Bartholomew
| > Waters and Mary Malone.
| >
| > BARTHOLOMEW WATERS shows up in Griffith's Valuations 1852.
| > Griffith's has him in County Carlow, PLU of Carlow, Parish of
| > TULLOWMAGIMMA, Townland of TINRILAND,
| > Ord S. 7, maps 19A and 19B, tenants of Viscount Beresford, land of just
| > over
| > 104 acres.
| >
| > Can this land be equated with Maplestown?
| >
| > Any assistance gratefully received.
| >
| >
| > Bill.


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