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From: "Sharon Kavanagh" <>
Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] place names ending in low, etc.
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 13:56:20 -0700
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Gerry - I remember when you were exploring this subject before. Today I
found this website and it does cover place names ending in low. Can't find
one about ending in 'ow' sounds-like-toe, however.
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/simpsont/place_names.htm
Sharon

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gerry Moloney" <>
To: <>
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 1:33 PM
Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] "Falbow" Co Carlow


> Gary,
>
> I never heard of it and I am interested in any name ending in -ow. I want
> to know the reason and meaning of -ow at the end of names like Carlow,
> Durrow, Tullow, Wicklow, Harrow, etc. It obviously came with Anglicisation
> but there was obviously some systematic meaning rather than just random
> anglisication due to pronunciation.
>
> And names did become significantly changed, like Carlow itself which was
> once Catherlagh (or Ceatherlach depending on which map are reading or
> person you listening to!). So Mercator's map here is interesting, showing
> Carlow as Catherlagh:
> http://www.betzmaps.com/images/e-351.jpg
>
> So you might look for a place called something like 'Falbagh' on a map,
> for instance, which might look and sound considerably different than
> 'Falbow'.
>
> Hope this idea helps but probably doesn't much.
>
> Gerry
>
>
> 'You can lead a man to knowledge but you can't make him think.'
> Gerry Moloney (Lecturer)
> Computing Dept., ITCarlow, Ireland.
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>
> ________________________________
>
> From: on behalf of Sharon Kavanagh
> Sent: Thu 19/07/2007 21:19
> To:
> Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] "Falbow" Co Carlow
>
>
>
> Hi Gary - Altho you've probably thought of all this, here goes:
>
> Two questions about 'Falbow." Is it spoken information about the family
> spending time there? Or written?
>
> If spoken, I'd look for anything that sounds remotely like 'fal' + 'bow.'
> However, is that fal as in Al, or fal as in Fall? Which vowel sound? And,
> is that bow as in bow-tie or bow as in a curtsey? You could look for any
> 2
> syllable town that rhymed with those two sounds.
>
> F could be PH, of course, in a list of townlands. Also, if spoken, that F
> could be anything: for example, S, TH, etc.
>
> If your family info was written information, how was it spelled?
>
> And a 3rd question, is there anyway to know (speculate) if this townland
> could have been on a border?
>
> Sharon Kavanagh
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 9:18 PM
> Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] "Falbow" Co Carlow
>
>
>> I've been researching about 40 18th century Kavanagh families from South
>> Carlow. Recently I received information about one of them showing up in
>> Australia. There was a marriage and three children entered into the
>> Borris, Co Carlow
>> RC Register in the mid 19th century. According to information from
>> Australia
>> they must have moved elsewhere in Ireland prior to their settling in
>> Australia. The information associated with their family says that they
>> spent time in
>> "Falbow" Co Carlow after Borris and prior to Australia. There is
>> definitely
>> not a location named Falbow in either Borris or St Mullins (lower)
>> Parish. In
>> searching the townsland index I cannot find anything that comes at all
>> close
>> to Falbow in Carlow (nor in Kilkenny or Wexford). In fact, nothing close
>> comes back from my search in the whole of Ireland.
>>
>> Is anyone familiar with this location ? Any ideas
>>
>> appreciate any thoughts on this
>>
>> Gary Cavanaugh
>>
>>
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