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From: Rachel Murphy <>
Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Carlow Registry of Deeds
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 08:56:43 +0000 (GMT)


Hi Gail,

One further thing that you might find quite helpful is to take a look at the land books (or ask someone to take a look at them for you). These are held by the Valuation Office in Dublin (http://www.valoff.ie/Genealogy.htm). They document any changes in land ownership and in the size / usage / value of the land or buildings themselves. If you know the reference for where they lived in Griffith's, then you can use these books to work out how property's ownership changed from the 1850s up to the present day. They can provide some useful clues as to when people may have moved away, died etc.

Hope this helps,

Rachel


----- Original Message ----
From: Gail Nakayama <>
To:
Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2007 11:49:05 PM
Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Carlow Registry of Deeds


Hi JJ,

This the third email...sorry. I now see how you have
determined Paul leasing from Michael Jeffers. I was
reading across rather than down. In March 1860
Michael Jeffers was replaced by William Jeffers.

I am still interested in the date(s) you are looking
at as the earliest I have is 1860.

Mahalo!

Gail


--- JJ Woods <> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> The basic problem is that if the land holding was
> less than about 100 acres
> then the chances of a lease being recorded are
> almost nil except as
> mentioned where there was a risk of litigation.
>
> Paul Brennan leased a house, office and land from a
> Michael Jeffers. The
> extent was 1 acre 2 roods and 17 perches. The 'Net
> Annual Value' of the
> property was £1 (£0/15/0 for the land and 5s. for
> the house). It is highly
> unlikely that the lease was registered.
>
> Paul leased from a Michael Jeffers and it would
> appear as if Jeffers was a
> 'Middleman' in that he leased 96a 1r 34p from a Mary
> Gray in Seskin Lower
> She would appear to have been a sizeable landowner
> in the area.
>
> The chances of their being a lease is so small I
> feel it would not be worth
> you while spending much time, if any, in searching
> for it.
>
> Regards,
> J. J.
>
>
>
> On 09/08/07, Gail Nakayama <>
> wrote:
> >
> > Tom and Gary,
> >
> > Thanks so much for your responses. I've printed
> them
> > out and will digest before I go forward.
> >
> > Yes Tom, I would like to have a look at the
> indexes.
> > Could you email to me at ?
> >
> > Gary, thanks too for the words of caution. Irish
> > ancestry is a struggle. We must all be optimists
> or
> > just plain stubborn!
> >
> > Mahalo!
> > Gail
> >
> >
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