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From: "J T Pearson Outdoor Training" <>
Subject: RE: [IRL-CAVAN] Elizabeth Russel and family
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 16:55:45 +1200
In-Reply-To: <000401c6aa12$4a81ed80$8136fea9@abel>


Hi Keith
Assuming that Northampton infirmary is in Northamptonshire England you might
want to join the Northants list, there are many people offering lookups of
PRs etc and they might be able to help out with the family. Were they still
in Northants in 1871?
Good luck in your searches, aren't those blasted submitted records a pain!
There is one on the IGI for my gggf George LOVETT stating he was born in
Belfast in 1798, in fact it was Belturbet 1800, his date of death is
recorded accurately but with no place (should be New Zealand) and the
perpetrators name is not on the submission!
Regards
Jane

-----Original Message-----
From: Lorraine & Keith Abel [mailto:]
Sent: Tuesday, 18 July 2006 2:32 p.m.
To:
Subject: Re: [IRL-CAVAN] Elizabeth Russel and family

Dear Grant:

What a surprise that anyone should dig this one up! The information was
presented to LDS by a Church Member a long time ago and inserted in IGI.
The names of the children are all "Indianized" and most of them are
included, but not all. When I first discovered it I thought perhaps it was
a submission of a descendant of a relative who remained behind in India.
The surviving children (and there weren't many) had returned to England
with Charles and Elizabeth as far as I knew. At the time I asked if it was
possible to learn the name of a submitter but was told that was not
possible. The statement that Elizabeth was born in India is incorrect, she
was born in Ireland although the year is correct as far as we know.

It is just another piece of the puzzle.

By the way, Elizabeth and Charles are my 3rd great grandparents.

M Keith Abel.


----- Original Message -----
From: Grant Ruske
To:
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 8:06 PM
Subject: Re: [IRL-CAVAN] Elizabeth Russel and family


Hi Keith:
Go to http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp Mrs
Elizabeth Baile, wife of Charles Baile (apparently born about 1804 in India)
Married about 1825 at Mount Nugent, Kilbride, Cavan, Ireland. This doesn`t
answer your question but asks a few more. Good Luck

Yours Aye,
Grant Ruske
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lorraine & Keith Abel" <>
To: <>
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 8:47 AM
Subject: [IRL-CAVAN] Elizabeth Russel and family


> Cavan Listers:
>
> Elizabeth Russell ran off with her father's Coachman, Charles Baile, and
> married him 11 Oct 1822 in Dublin. Elizabeth's Father was so incensed
> that
> he disowned her. A cousin of mine spent a lot of money over a number of
> years, on a professional genealogist to find the father and Elizabeth's
> ancestry without success. The trouble was that the cousin believed in
> the
> old family tale implicitly and was quite certain that the father was a
> Lord
> Russell. I think it rather more likely that father was a small scale land
> owner, just wealthy enough to be able to hire a coachman.
>
> Charles Baile was born in 1803 in Mount Nugent Parish, County Cavan. I
> occurred to me that father Russell needn't go further than 10 miles to
> find
> a coachman for hire. Therefore I should be looking for a Russell family
> flourishing in County Cavan or nearby in the early years of the 19th
> Century. Probably living in a manor house which might even be modest in
> size.
>
> Is there some kind person in the vicinity of County Cavan who might poke
> about in the records to find such a Russell family, whether or not a
> daughter Elizabeth is included?
>
> Charles joined the British Army and together with his wife Elizabeth, was
> shipped to India where they spent their principal years. He died in the
> Northampton Infirmary 24 Sep 1868. Elizabeth died after 1868 in
> Walkerton,
> Bruce County, Ontario, Canada. She lived her last years in the home of
> the
> brother of her son-in-law, Marlborough Nixon.
>
> M Keith Abel
> Kingston, Ontario, Canada
>
>
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