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From: "Rick A. Francis" <>
Subject: Re: Remembering People and Information
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 22:31:07 -0600
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Jane, Thanks for the reminding of the hard work of these people, our ancestors. We can always stand a reminding. Regards, Rea
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From: Jane Lyons <>
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Sent: Monday, December 18, 2000 4:37 PM
Subject: Remembering People and Information


> Do you know that there are Archaeological and Historical Journals for
> various counties in Ireland going back to 1895, give or take a few years?
>
> Do you know that while the title is in some way mis-leading that some of
> these Journals have Parish Records published in them, they have the
> histories and stories from various parishes in the county whose name they
> may carry? Do you know that for some of them they can carry articles on the
> history of another county, or a parish record from a parish in a Diocese
> associated with that county?
>
> Do you realise that there is more than one reason as to why all Irish parish
> records were not filmed by the Mormons in Ireland? One of the reasons is
> that the originals had never made it to Dublin. Do you know how many parish
> records actually exist and whether or not those for the parish you are
> interested in do exist before you begin to criticise the Irish for not
> wanting to share what they have? Do you realise that in the early 19th
> century when a Priest or Vicar died, his famiy at times considered his
> record notebook to be his own personal possession and therefore theirs by
> right, and that many of these books ended up in attics or in rubbish piles?
> Do you realise that when any of these are put up for Auction the Irish
> National Archives will be informed and try to buy these back as part of our
> heritage?
>
> Many of these strays were then transcribed by dedicated people and published
> in Archaeological, Historical, Genealogical Journals.
>
> Do any of you know the names of any of these people who saved records for
> you? Do you remember them? Do you know why they did it?
>
> Do you know that there are people in Ireland today who go around
> transcribing graveyards, who transcribe information from manuscripts, who
> collect all our songs, poetry, stories, compare the different versions from
> different counties? who write Parish Histories and who then pay to what they
> have worked on published (if they have them published), and when these are
> published - usually limited to 500-1000 in number because of costs, then
> they have to find their market in local towns or where-ever? Graveyard
> Transcriptions are usually published in an effort to raise money for the
> local Church. Our graveyards are in terrible condition - we have few
> historical societies in Ireland.
>
> Do you know anything about the people who do all this work?
>
> I am going to make separate posts on Journals and naming people who had
> articles published consistently. Some of these Journals appeared before
> 1900 in Ireland. To try and give all here would be too much, too many
> names, too many Journals
>
> as I read through these journals I can see when someone dies - not because
> there is an obituary, but because the person has stopped writing. These
> names, these people, did what they did for the love of it, they published
> again and again and again, many of them made contribuitions not only to
> those Journals in which I find their names repeated over and over, butto
> other Journals, they wrote books, gave lectures. They were, some of them,
> acadaemics, some ordinary people, some had been in the army - their
> background is irrelevant the fact is that they did what they did because
> they were extraordinary people, people with a passion and a love of history,
> culture - all things Irish
>
> I know what all these people wrote about, two stand out the most for me
> because I admire their work and am particularly interested in it - I can
> definitely say that I am interested in graveyard transcription because of
> one man Mr.Richard Henchion in Cork. His work is incredible, he knocks any
> other
> person who ever did graveyard transcription flat. For some if not all of
> his published works on graveyards in Cork, he found out as much as he could
> about the families and people buried in the plots. He recorded and
> published this. No other person whose graveyard work I have seen has ever
> done this.
>
> I don't know what recognition if any Mr. Henchion has ever received for his
> work. here in Ireland those of us who transcribe graveyards are thought to
> be mad.
>
> The second person who stands out for me is Mr. Seán Ó Súilleabháin because
> of all his work with folklore and customs and superstitions in which I also
> have a special interest.
>
> I think no list of names from any Journal would be complete without that of
> Rosemary ffolliott, who many of you will have heard of because of her
> transcriptions of Marriages, births and deaths from newspapers. Few of you
> will ever have heard of her many other works. She was everywhere and in
> everything. To the best of my knowledge she too is still alive.
>
> If there were any Irish genealogists or historians who had not been
> unsubscribed from the Ireland-L rootsweb list then they would have been able
> to confirm whether or which about these two people. By saying unscubscribed
> I mean that the List Owner has unsubscribed them.
>
>
>
>
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