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Subject: RE: BUCKLEY (Cork to Wales to Pittsburgh)
Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2007 00:17:44 +0000
I put in the wrong date for my Margaret Murphy Buckley marrying Timothy Collins it was May of 53 and I thought your Mary Scannell married in 52 could be the witness and the parish priest put into the record her maiden name. Joan
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From: "John Steitz" <>
> Joan-
> I think that is very possible or that they met in Ireland and ran off to
> Wales to get married. They list 22 & 19 as their ages on the marriage
> certificate but were they? It would be very easy to live nearby each other
> but be in different civil parishes not to mention how they may have been
> displaced as a result of the famine.
> John
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> Could John and Mary have met in Merthyr and not in Cork giving her a
> different townland in Ireland. Joan
>
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> From: "John Steitz"
>
> > Patsy-
> > Thank you very much for your reply. I have learned of this BUCKLEY family
> > and in fact it matches very, very closely with mine. I found this Michael
> > and all his children in IGI. There was a John born in Feb. 1833 vs,
> abt1831.
> > The wife's name was Margaret. She was born a Dennahy. That matches my John
> &
> > Mary Buckley's second oldest daughter. There was an older brother Timothy
> > which would make a nice fit into the family tale. This is also an Irish
> > speaking area which would agree with some of the difficulties I have seen
> > that the family had with census takers. My family says that the name
> > Scannell should be Scanlon. All documents in Wales (birth, baptism,
> > marriage) and the US have listed Scannell. I assume the family passed down
>
> > a shortened version of O Scannlain, (the Irish version) but since it was
> > unable to be written it was anglicized to Scannell every time.
> >
> > I have included this family in my tree. BUT, there is reason to doubt
> this.
> > We visited Inchigeelagh this spring. It was a wonderful and it was a
> magical
> > experience. Since I had investigated enough to determine the townland, I
> > asked and we were escorted to the former BUCKLEY farm. The foundation of
> the
> > house and barn remain. So far you are probably wondering why I haven't
> > accepted this as fact.
> >
> > There are two problems:
> > I could not locate the birth of a Mary Scannell in Inchigeelagh to
> > match my Mary.
> > The town historian graciously sent me a BUCKLEY family report for
> > this family. It appears that the John I thought I had secured married in
> his
> > mid 30's in another parish over the ridge.
> >
> > I have not given up hope entirely and you don't know how grateful I am
> that
> > you took the time to find good reason to investigate this family. However,
> I
> > must at a minimum continue my search with an open mind.
> > Thank you for your time and your thoughts.
> > John
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Patricia O'Shea [mailto:]
> > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 1:31 AM
> > To:
> > Cc:
> > Subject: Re: BUCKLEY (Cork to Wales to Pittsburgh)
> >
> > Hello John - not an anwser to your query but in the Griffiths Valuations
> > there is only one place in Co Cork where a Michael BUCKLEY and an Edward
> > SCANNELL appear - Inchigeelagh. The Griffiths was taken between 1851 and
> > 1853 so this is a rather tenuous possibility. However Inchigeelagh could
> be
> > a starting point.
> > Cheers, Patsy - New Zealand.
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > I am actively searching for my BUCKLEY origins in County Cork. John
> > > BUCKLEY
> > > born abt 1831 and left Ireland for southern Wales about 1850. My first
> > > hard
> > > evidence is his marriage certificate dated May 18, 1852 in Merthyr
> Tydfil,
> > > Glamorgan, Wales. He married a Mary Scannell born abt 1834 also Irish
> > > born.
> > > John's father is listed as Michael BUCKLEY and I would estimate he was
> > > born
> > > circa 1805. Mary's father was listed as Edward SCANNELL (deceased).
> > > Therefore, I would assume that Michael Buckley was not known to have
> died
> > > by
> > > 1852.
> > >
> > > John & Mary BUCKLEY had children named Johanna, Edward, Margaret, Ellen,
>
> > > Bridget, John & Catherine in Wales and the last two in England. John
> left
> > > Wales for the US 1870. Mary and the surviving children: Johanna,
> Margaret,
> > > John & Catherine came to NY via Liverpool and Cobh in May 1872. After an
>
> > > exhaustive search there are no other known siblings or parents of either
>
> > > John or Mary in Wales or England. It is assumed from information
> gathered
> > > that both came to Wales from the southwestern portion of County Cork. It
>
> > > appears that the mining and iron industry may have been a drawing factor
>
> > > to
> > > Merthyr Tydfil.
> > >
> > > My Buckley family settled in Pittsburgh, PA. There they had two more
> > > children Cornelius b1873 and Jeremiah b1876.
> > >
> > >
> > >>
> >
> >
> >
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