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From: "Bill & Flo" <>
Subject: Re: [DUBLIN IRELAND] Irish church records, 1901 & 1911 census & cemeteries Dublin
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 07:32:22 -0800
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Anthony...thanks so much. I've printed out your reply and will follow up on
all your leads. If you ever hear of the 1901 and 1911 census records being
posted on the internet let me know. So far Ancestry only has the English
records. I need to contact them and encourage them to do Ireland too.
Maybe they are already planning on doing it.

I did not realize that the Catholics didn't start their records until 1833.
I hired someone to try and find my great grandmother's baptismal record. No
wonder he couldn't find it or her marriage even though I had the marriage
place [including the name of the church] and date in our family Bible.
Thanks for that information. Her parish probably didn't start recording
stuff for a while or if they did...they didn't keep great records.

Take care, Flo


----- Original Message -----
From: "Anthony J. Roche" <>
To: <>
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 3:39 AM
Subject: Re: [DUBLIN IRELAND] Irish church records, 1901 & 1911 census &
cemeteries Dublin
>
> Ironically the then government requested the
> protestant parishes to send their records to the
> Four Courts for 'safe keeping' and many did,
> mainly the Anglican (Church of Ireland / England)
> many nonconformists did not. It needs to be
> remembered that until Catholic emancipation in
> 1833 it was ILLEGAL to keep records of Catholic
> baptisms etc and Catholic clergy did so at their
> peril, therefore records were often kept in
> unfavourable circumstances or not at all. Any
> perusal or extant Catholic records will show
> records written in notebook style often using
> margins etc to use up any available paper. After
> 1833 conditions only slowly improved for the
> catholic community in Ireland. It would of
> course not be fair or correct to blame all on non
> catholic / English practices, many of the ruling
> and monied classes were Irish, but these also
> shared the idealogy of their counterparts, which
> didn't consider the keeping of records of the
> working classes worth the trouble. It must be
> remembered that the main reason for collecting
> and keeping such information was for the
> collection of taxes (what changes) and as the
> average working person did not pay taxes or
> 'rates' on property, so the necessity for records was not a priority.
>
> >Maybe the
> >LDS church has not been given permission to film Catholic Records. Does
> >anyone know?
>
> Brian at who is very
> knowledgeable and helpful will be able to supply
> a more comprehensive answer to this, I suggest you contact him.
>
> I have had good luck with Mt. Jerome Cemetery records for
> >Protestant burials in Dublin which the LDS library has filmed, but I
haven't
> >found any Catholic cemetery records on film for Dublin.
>
> Mount Jerome was up until the 20th century
> largely Protestant, so that would account for you
> lack of Catholic results there.
>
> >Has anyone else
> >found any either filmed or on the net? I'm especially interested in
> >Glasnevin Catholic Cemetery in Dublin.
>
> Glasnevin (Prospect) cemetery now has a website
> and will conduct searches for a fee of ?25
>
>
> >Also...does anyone know if the 1901 or 1911 Irish census records are
being
> >put on the internet for us to use?
>
> The only source other than the LDS is the National Archives in Dublin.
>
>
> What a tortuously long answer to some simple questions!!
>
> Regards
> Anthony J. Roche
> Good Dublin links at http://www.rootsweb.com/~irldubli/
>
> Visit my Website at http://homepages.iol.ie/~ajroche/
>
>
>
>
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