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From: "Don Kelly" <>
Subject: Re: Mixed mariages - Different labels/meanings: Re: Catholics and Protestants - Records: Re: [LEIX] Doonane Parish
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 17:09:31 -0700
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Hi Penny. Happy to meet you on this list.

For years we have exchanged information with our Irish cousins.....some of
it fun things like how much are we Irish and how much other.

Each of us have four grandparents and each of our grandparents have four
grandparents.

If I correctly count, in two generations that comes to twenty grandparents

Even two generations taken that is a lot of grandparents.

Sixteen of my twenty grandparents were Irish, and I venture to say that
record is hard to beat even in Ireland.

An just as Texans and Arkansawyers speak in different terminologies, this is
probably true in all states of the union.

I am most recently from Alaska, but before that I was in California, and now
live in Oregon. In each of those states the term mixed marriages is the
same.

I have a cousin of sorts who lives in Louisianna and on the phone I can't
understand a word he says, unless he slows way down.<GRIN>

This is so much fun.

Don
----- Original Message -----
From: "PB Delery" <>
To: <>
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 4:56 PM
Subject: Re: Mixed mariages - Different labels/meanings: Re: Catholics and
Protestants - Records: Re: [LEIX] Doonane Parish


> Well, here is a little more diversity. I am from New Orleans
> (although I do live in North Carolina now) and if you use the
> term mixed marriages there, it would mean marriages between those
> of different faiths. I am Catholic and New Orleans was primarily
> Catholic before I left and "mixed marriages" definitely meant
> different faiths.
>
> Penny
>
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Don Kelly" <>
>
>
>
> Yes, <GRIN> I noticed Jane, but don't worry.
>
> We need primary flexability in our outlooks to accomodate the
> outlooks of others. We cannot take ourselves too seariously.
>
> Mixed marriages in America refers exclusively to mixed racial
> marriages.
>
> Marriages between faiths is often labeled, "marriages out of the
> faith."
>
> There is a lot of such diversity here and we just love it.
>
> Don
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dr. Jane Lyons" <>
>> Don,
>> I might be really - small town Irish
> here..................there's a word,
>> it escapes me right now - but - HOW- can a mixed marriage mean
> anything different in America than it does in Ireland.........
>>
>> same reliogion - diferent colours
>> same religion - different ?ethnicities/cultural backgrounds
>>
>> I'm the person who is always gettting me in trouble becasue I
> see
>> differences in how Americans nad myself (general Irish) look on
>> things.............
>>
>> and I really, really want to learn - would like to know the
> why's and how's that our nationalities/groups see
> differently........
>>
>> I really want to understand how it is and why it is that if I
> understand somethng to mean one thing - then how is it - why is
> it - what is it that others of other nationalities might take
> what |I say..................
>>
>> Things like when what I say has a different meaning for them
>>
>> Like here.................I use the term 'mixed marriages' to
> refer to
>> marriages between people of different religions - but in your
> country - would this term be used for marriages between people
> of different colours/race?
>>
>> and if so - how would you desribe a marraige between people of
> mixed religions.
>>
>> I would really like to know - please and thanks.
>>
>> Jane
>
>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Don Kelly" <>
>>> Greetings all, and hello Jane.
>>>
>>> I have viewed copies of old records described by Jane and can
> attest that the spouse of the subject was often labeled
> "Papist"..........meaning in my book, Catholic.
>>>
>>> When discussing mixed marriages in Ireland, remember the label
> does not carry the same meaning in America.
>>>
>>> There are fundamental differences between the way Americans
> see things, and the way our Irish Cousins see the same
> things........social outlooks being merely the tip of the
> iceberg.
>>>
>>> Donal O'Còllàùgh O'Kelly
>
>
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