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From: "adcolthirst" <>
Subject: Re: [LIMERICK] Re: RC Church records in Cashel and Emly
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 08:31:27 -0400


Perhaps Mack, as an ex. supervisor of T.H.U., would would know exactly what
a non-profit organisation means? One that makes a loss? or one that breaks
even, i.e., all earnings, except reserve for equipment maintenance and
expansion are spent? I know that it means a limited non-share capital
company, the intent of which is to make a non- taxed profit . Such
organisations wherever they exist are just tax dodgers. Far better if the
T.H.U., had been granted 'charitable organisation status', but then salaries
and wages would be out of the question ( catch 22!).

Anyway "Mack", we are not discussing the T.H.U., or any other Heritage
centre; we are discussing the policies of the Archdiocese of Cashel & Emly
as they relate to not being allowed to view the microfilms at the National
Library, Dublin.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mack <>
To: adcolthirst <>;
<>
Date: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 9:17 PM
Subject: Re: [LIMERICK] Re: RC Church records in Cashel and Emly


>As the THU is not a commercial organisation but a non-profit organisation
>providing a service for the church (ie freeing the priests of the diocese
>from any requirement to conduct research and computerising the early
records
>for safekeeping) the question of commercialisation doesn't arise. I know
>that this answer won't satisfy Arly, but those of you with a more open mind
>might like to visit the thu website at www.iol.ie/~thu to learn more about
>thu .
>
>Mack
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: adcolthirst <>
>To: <>
>Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 12:08 PM
>Subject: Re: [LIMERICK] Re: RC Church records in Cashel and Emly
>
>
>> Sorry, Kathryn, this should have been directed to Maureen Chiccoine.
> Tjhe
>> problem is every message is marked as "Original" separated only by
>symbols:
>> >> etc.
>>
>> No Maureen, I know what Simony is - and I also know that what goes on as
a
>> standard operating procedure in ANY organisation let aloneand and
>> especially the world's largest and oldest organised faith must be laid
>down
>> in regulations.
>>
>> For if it weren't, then one could not expect parishes all over the world
>to
>> conform to a custom and procedure that is not legislated. Ask your
Bishop
>> for an answer on the question of whether allowing church records to be
>used
>> for commercial purposes is not contrary to Code and let us know what he
>> said.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Arly.
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Kathryn McCarthy <>
>> To: adcolthirst <>;
>> <>
>> Date: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 12:37 AM
>> Subject: Re: [LIMERICK] Re: RC Church records in Cashel and Emly
>>
>>
>> >Arly,
>> >
>> >Hold it! I didn't claim to know anything about Bishops! Direct your
>> >comments to the appropriate person please.
>> >Kathryn
>> >
>> >Kathryn McCarthy
>> >http://wexlababe.home.att.net
>> >SEND YOUR LIMERICK/CLARE RECORDS FOR INCLUSION.
>> >SHARE YOUR STUFF!!!
>> >----- Original Message -----
>> >From: adcolthirst <>
>> >To: Kathryn McCarthy <>;
>> ><>
>> >Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 5:45 PM
>> >Subject: Re: [LIMERICK] Re: RC Church records in Cashel and Emly
>> >
>> >
>> >> OK, since you know so much about Bishops - how come, can you explain
>> >why the Bishops of Kerry and Limerick disagreed with the Dictator, known
>as
>> >the Archbishop of Cashel & Emly?
>> >>
>> >> Btw, what exactly is the office of Archbishop as it relates to the
>> >authority of the Primate? Equivalent to a Vice Pres.,?
>> >> Arly
>>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Kathryn McCarthy <>
>> >> To: <>
>> >> Date: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 3:19 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: [LIMERICK] Re: RC Church records in Cashel and Emly
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >Take it you mean 'money' works better.... :)
>> >> >Kathryn McCarthy
>> >> >http://wexlababe.home.att.net
>>
>>
>> >> >----- Original Message -----
>> >> >From: Maureen J. Chicoine <>
>> >> >To: <>
>> >> >Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 11:24 AM
>> >> >Subject: Re: [LIMERICK] Re: RC Church records in Cashel and Emly
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Can't find anything in canon law about registers except the
>> >> >obligation of
>> >> >> the minister to see that sacraments are recorded promptly and
>> >> >accurately.
>> >> >> Perhaps the person is thinking about simony which is the
>> >prohibition
>> >> >of the
>> >> >> sale of religious rites which would not apply here.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Since I work for a Bishop I would agree with Kathy's advice that
>> >> >honey
>> >> >> works better (as it does with most folks). The Bishop makes the
>> >> >rules for
>> >> >> his diocese i.e. he is not really a sort of branch office head
>> >with
>> >> >the Pope
>> >> >> as CEO as many folks in and out of the Church think. The thinking
>> >is
>> >> >that he
>> >> >> is the person who is best aware of the needs of the local church
>> >so
>> >> >rules
>> >> >> differ and their applications in most dioceses even within the
>> >same
>> >> >country.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Researching SHEA/FARRELL in Limerick without much luck!
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > ______________________________
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
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>> >> >> Limerick Surnames/Queries
>> >> >http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Parthenon/6108/limerick.htm
>> >> >> Limerick Diocese Parishes:
>> >> >http://www.limerick-diocese.org/parishes/index.htm
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>> >> >http://wexlababe.home.att.net/
>> >> >>
>> >> >
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