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From: "Padraig O Gealagain" <>
Subject: Re: Irish Records.......Re: [LIMERICK] just out of curiosity...
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 11:51:56 -0500


Please remember though, The Bishops of Limerick and Kerry do not hold the
same views as their Boss ( Dr.Clifford) insofar as the Microfilms of their
Dioceses at the Nat'l Library are concerned. There was some obscure Canon
law edict about given over church records for a commercial , albeit
'non-profit" enterprise.

Regards,

Padraig+

-----Original Message-----
From: M.J. Troy <>
To: <>
Date: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 2:29 AM
Subject: Re: Irish Records.......Re: [LIMERICK] just out of curiosity...


>I too must agree with Tony Riordan, Jane Lyons and JudyC.
>
>To begin with, I'm second generation Irish American. Back in 1969, a
>first generation friend of my father, was processing his paperwork for
>social security retirement. Much to his horror, he realized that he was
>conceived prior to his Irish catholic parents church wedding. They were
>married in April 1904 - he was born in July of the same year. At the
>time, having overheard the conversation I remembered thinking
>(progressive young American, that I thought I was); "so what, the
>parents were married before he was born.
>
>Later, in discussion with my father, he pointed out to me that within
>"the friends family" and certainly within the morale views of society at
>the time, it was, and would have been considered a very disgraceful or
>scandalous thing. That for the sake of the man's family honour, and the
>embarrassment it would cause; this was a subject I must never mention.
>
>Well, perhaps today it may seem a small thing in the U.S. However, it
>was not at the time. With this in mind, and with respect for the mans
>family members in Ireland, and the promise to my father - who died many
>years ago - I would still never reveal this to the current family
>members who I am still friends with. In this regard, I believe my point
>is representative of the values, Jane refers to when she said; " - very
>few understand Ireland and the Irish."
>
>Therefore, regardless of what our 21st century moral viewpoints have
>'evolved' (???) to; should we not keep faith with the viewpoint of the
>culture, so many of us claim to love, admire, and respect?
>
>Are we to criticize, the opinion and policies of this man of God, whose
>primary responsibility is to protect the people, privacy, and
>institution of the church?
>
>I think not. But, that is only my opinion.
>
>As I write this, it occurred to me that perhaps in a larger sense, the
>dissatisfaction and complaints regarding access to the records is just
>another example of; decadence, decline of our traditional American
>family values. The true irony is; we do not even recognize it for what
>it may be. For after all, how important is the possible infringement
>upon the privacy of others....
>
>:-)
>
>Thank you, and God bless.
>
>Michael
>
>
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