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From: Barbara Nellesen <>
Subject: Re: IRL-LIMERICK-D Digest V04 #236
Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2004 19:58:26 -0500
References: <200412082100.iB8L0JB0015954@lists5.rootsweb.com>


Padraig,

THANK YOU!!!! You have been most helpful. I will write to the librarian
as you suggested. I live in a small town in the mountains of Georgia but
I will definitely plan a visit to the closest LDS center. Providing the
film numbers was extremely helpful.

I received most of the information I had through the Limerick Regional
Archives on a visit there back in the early 90's but the data was
transcribed. I did not obtain any copies of the official records.

Again, my thanks!

-Barbara


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>IRL-LIMERICK-D DigestVolume 04 : Issue 236
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>Today's Topics:
> #1 County Limerick online data additi [ConnorsGenealogy <]
> #2 Subject: Padraig-? about Limerick [=?iso-8859-1?B?UOFkcmFpZyBN83Ig0yB]
> #3 RE: [LMK] Palatine Names - English ["Jill Jackson" <]
> #4 Re: IRL-LIMERICK-D Digest V04 #235 []
> #5 RE: [LMK] Re: IRL-LIMERICK-D Diges ["John" <>]
> #6 Canter & Guy + Palmer & Travers [Murray Lynn <]
> #7 Re:Discovery Series Ordnance Maps []
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> Subject:
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> County Limerick online data additions
> From:
>
> ConnorsGenealogy <>
> Date:
>
> Tue, 07 Dec 2004 12:32:51 -0800
> To:
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> I have transcribed the Tithe Applotments for the Dromcolliher Civil
> Parish (1829) and they are online on the County Limerick section of my
> website. Also added to the site this month, is Teresa Wadman's BDMs
> index from the Ireland Government Registry Office in Dublin for the
> surnames Kavanagh/Cavanagh, Lyons, Keating, Mahon/McMahon and Purcell
> for County Limerick districts and surrounds.
>
> You can access the links to these databases by going to the URL below
> my name. At my homepage, at the top under Ireland, click on County
> Limerick.
>
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> Subject:
>
> Subject: Padraig-? about Limerick street
> From:
>
> Pádraig Mór Ó Gealagáin <>
> Date:
>
> Tue, 7 Dec 2004 18:52:36 -0500
> To:
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>***Original Message***
>From: Barbara Nellesen <>
>Subject: Padraig-? about Limerick street
>Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2004 13:41:37 -0500
>
>Hello Padraig,
>
>I was reading your reply to Daniel Moran where you said you
>had lived a
>good sum of your life in Limerick. I was wondering if you
>might be able
>to help me.
>
>My paternal great grandparents, Richard Smyth and
>Honora/Mary Rice,
>lived in Limerick and presumably died there (details
>below).
>
>A deceased aunt of mine visited there in the 80's and ran
>into a distant
>cousin and he took her to the street where the Smyth family
>lived. It
>was supposedly named Ent St and my aunt was adamant about
>the spelling.
>I was there for a very short visit in the early 90's and
>was unable to
>locate this street. Do you by any chance recall this
>street, probably in
>the city of Limerick, and in what parish or townland it
>might be located?
>
>Thank you for any help you might be able to provide.
>
>Barbara Nellesen
>Georgia, USA
>
>Richard Smyth married Honora/Mary Rice 29 SEP 1870 at St
>Mary's Parish
>entry 368. Richard and Honora had the following children -
>all born in
>Limerick City and baptised at St John's Roman Catholic
>Church:
>
>SNIP>>>>
>
>Barbara,
>I have never heard of a street in the city named "Ent" - It
>is not even a proper word, is it ?, It could be the end
>letters of a street, such as Convent, which is located in
>St. Mary's RC parish.
>
>By church tradition/regulations being married in St. Mary's
>means that Hanora Mary Rice was born and lived in that
>parish. If you have a copy of the civil marriage
>register - not the church record - then the residence
>addresses of both parties at the time of marriage will be
>shown. If you don't then, the Index Film #0101251 will
>provide the page number, and the Full record
>Film # 0101559 (Vol.5) will provide a complete record. Both
>are available through the LDS, Family History Centres
>where a photocopy of the full record can be obtained.
>
>The SRD (Superintendent's Registration District ) No. 3 is
>St. John's civil parish, so they must have lived or moved
>there after her wedding.
>
>An email to Reference & Local History Librarian, Mike
>Maguire , E-mail Address: might
>prove helpful in tracking down the mysterious street.
>
>Is Mise Phádraig
>[ An t'Sean-Gabhar ;-) ]
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> Subject:
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> RE: [LMK] Palatine Names - English?
> From:
>
> "Jill Jackson" <>
> Date:
>
> Wed, 8 Dec 2004 11:33:01 +1100
> To:
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>
>Thank you Padraig,
>
>I now know how it first came to Ireland. Is it a common name in
>Limerick?
>Where in Limerick would I find it? All over the Region or only in some
>places.
>Forgive me for asking the obvious, we do have Regions or Districts in
>Australia, but they are a mix of many people and Nations.
>Regards,
>Jill
>Sydney, NSW
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Pádraig Mór Ó Gealagáin [mailto:]
>
>According to Edward MacLysaght in his book "The Surnames of
>Ireland" "English, first called l'Angleis, etc. It is in
>Co. Limerick since the 13th. century, and is now totally
>hibernicised."
>
>So from the above one can conclude it was originally an
>Norman name.
>
>Is Mise Phádraig
>[ An t'Sean-Gabhar ;-) ]
>
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> Subject:
>
> Re: IRL-LIMERICK-D Digest V04 #235
> From:
>
>
> Date:
>
> Tue, 7 Dec 2004 16:51:06 -0800
> To:
>
>
>
>
>Hi List
>I dont think I was here when you discussed Palatine, and have no idea
>what it means, could someone please ecxplain?
>Iam reposting my query and hoping someone might point me in the right
>direction..
>
>My greatgrand parents were Maurice (Mauritti) Langan Sr. and Margaret
>Kennely(spelled a ton of different ways!~) Langan.
>This is all I know
>
>MAURICE SYLVESTER LANGAN SR.
>born in possibly Askeaton, Limerick or Rathkele,about 1836, although
>that date could be incorrect..Married MARGARET KENNELLY August 22,1857
>IN
>Askeaton,Limerick,Ireand
>Another lister sent me the following for Margaret..
>
>"I found Con Kennelly & Margaret Nester had son Peter 25-1-1842, Michael
>born 12-10-1839, Margaret born 6-10-1836.
>They appear to have lived in the Askeaton area of Co Limerick.
>There is a story that a Kennelly man who lived in Askeaton moved around
>so often that he never took the Dresser out of the Horse's Car. I found
>the births from the Mormons data base. "
>I have also been told that Margaret was born in County Kerry.Her parents
>were Cornelius Kennelly and Mary Nestor/Nester.My daughter once found
>that Margaret was a "table dancer" in Ireland, fell was hurt and walked
>with a limp. She has not been able to find it again.I dont know what a
>table dancer is but Margarets granddaughter who is also researching
>verified she did indeed walk with a limp but did not know why.I have
>never found any information on the LANGAN's or KENNELLY's in Ireland and
>dont know where to begin looking.
>Iam on webtv and cant always access some place on the internet, and
>though Ican get some of the LDS I have never found the previous..
>
>My great grandparents came to the USA around 1877, but I believe, from
>census records etc., that it had to be earlier due to the homesteading
>laws, citizenship etc.They settled in Nebraska, where both died and are
>buried at St Patricks/St Josephs cemetery.My greatgrandfathers
>Naturalization paper has no information nor does hs death certificate.
>he could not read or write so it was left to others to fill out these
>papers.
>Following is a list of some of their children.Ive been told there were
>11 or 12 children but these are the only ones we have found. I do not
>know where these records were found or where they were baptized, as this
>was also found by someone else for me.
>and this is virtually all I know of Maurice and Margaret in Ireland..any
>help is very much appreciated
>
>CHILDREN;
>CATHERINE (KATE)
>BORN ASKEATON,
>CHRISTENED
>10,JUNE,1858
>(CATHERINE DIED AS A CHILD IN
>IRELAND)
>
>JOHN FRANCES
>BORN ASKEATON,
>CHRISTENED
>7,JULY,1860
>
>MICHAEL G.
>BORN ASKEATON,
>CHRISTENED
>5,SEPT,1862
>
>MARY
>BORN ASKEATON
>CHRISTENED
>3,APRIL,1870
>
>JERRY(JEREMIAH)
>BORN ASKEATON
>CHRISTENED
>30,SEPT,1871
>
>ELLEN (HELEN-NELL-NELLIE-HELENAM)
>BORN ASKEATON
>CHRISTENED
>7,MARCH,1873
>
>ELIZABETH (SISTER SYLVIA)
>BORN ASKEATON
>CHRISTENED 17,MAY,1874
>
>MAURICE S.(JR) (my grandfather)
>BORN ASKEATON
>CHRISTENED 7,JULY,1875
>
>PATRICK BORN
>17,MARCH 1880
>(PATRICK WAS THE ONLY ONE TO BE BORN IN AMERICA)
>It is believed that Maurice and Margaret entered the United States
>through Canada or the St. Lawrence Seaway into New York, (we have no
>documentation on this as yet)
>
> Sorry this is so long...Ill wait to post a query for the FITZSIMMONS
>side :)
>Thank you for any help.
>Cris
>California
>
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> Subject:
>
> RE: [LMK] Re: IRL-LIMERICK-D Digest V04 #235
> From:
>
> "John" <>
> Date:
>
> Tue, 7 Dec 2004 19:14:58 -0600
> To:
>
>
>
>
>I did a search on Google and came up with this link
>
>http://www.irishpalatines.org/ipalinx.html
>
>which
>
>http://www.irelandofthewelcomes.com/articles/article.asp?id=254
>
>In short they are German's how came to Ireland.
>
>Hope this helps,
>
>John Kerley
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [mailto:]
>Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 6:51 PM
>To:
>Subject: [LMK] Re: IRL-LIMERICK-D Digest V04 #235
>
>Hi List
>I dont think I was here when you discussed Palatine, and have no idea what
>it means, could someone please ecxplain?
>Iam reposting my query and hoping someone might point me in the right
>direction..
>
>My greatgrand parents were Maurice (Mauritti) Langan Sr. and Margaret
>Kennely(spelled a ton of different ways!~) Langan.
>This is all I know
>
>MAURICE SYLVESTER LANGAN SR.
>born in possibly Askeaton, Limerick or Rathkele,about 1836, although that
>date could be incorrect..Married MARGARET KENNELLY August 22,1857 IN
>Askeaton,Limerick,Ireand Another lister sent me the following for
>Margaret..
>
>"I found Con Kennelly & Margaret Nester had son Peter 25-1-1842, Michael
>born 12-10-1839, Margaret born 6-10-1836.
>They appear to have lived in the Askeaton area of Co Limerick.
>There is a story that a Kennelly man who lived in Askeaton moved around so
>often that he never took the Dresser out of the Horse's Car. I found the
>births from the Mormons data base. "
>I have also been told that Margaret was born in County Kerry.Her parents
>were Cornelius Kennelly and Mary Nestor/Nester.My daughter once found that
>Margaret was a "table dancer" in Ireland, fell was hurt and walked with a
>limp. She has not been able to find it again.I dont know what a table dancer
>is but Margarets granddaughter who is also researching verified she did
>indeed walk with a limp but did not know why.I have never found any
>information on the LANGAN's or KENNELLY's in Ireland and dont know where to
>begin looking.
>Iam on webtv and cant always access some place on the internet, and though
>Ican get some of the LDS I have never found the previous..
>
>My great grandparents came to the USA around 1877, but I believe, from
>census records etc., that it had to be earlier due to the homesteading
>laws, citizenship etc.They settled in Nebraska, where both died and are
>buried at St Patricks/St Josephs cemetery.My greatgrandfathers
>Naturalization paper has no information nor does hs death certificate.
>he could not read or write so it was left to others to fill out these
>papers.
>Following is a list of some of their children.Ive been told there were
>11 or 12 children but these are the only ones we have found. I do not know
>where these records were found or where they were baptized, as this was also
>found by someone else for me.
>and this is virtually all I know of Maurice and Margaret in Ireland..any
>help is very much appreciated
>
>CHILDREN;
>CATHERINE (KATE)
>BORN ASKEATON,
>CHRISTENED
>10,JUNE,1858
>(CATHERINE DIED AS A CHILD IN
>IRELAND)
>
>JOHN FRANCES
>BORN ASKEATON,
>CHRISTENED
>7,JULY,1860
>
>MICHAEL G.
>BORN ASKEATON,
>CHRISTENED
>5,SEPT,1862
>
>MARY
>BORN ASKEATON
>CHRISTENED
>3,APRIL,1870
>
>JERRY(JEREMIAH)
>BORN ASKEATON
>CHRISTENED
>30,SEPT,1871
>
>ELLEN (HELEN-NELL-NELLIE-HELENAM)
>BORN ASKEATON
>CHRISTENED
>7,MARCH,1873
>
>ELIZABETH (SISTER SYLVIA)
>BORN ASKEATON
>CHRISTENED 17,MAY,1874
>
>MAURICE S.(JR) (my grandfather)
>BORN ASKEATON
>CHRISTENED 7,JULY,1875
>
>PATRICK BORN
>17,MARCH 1880
>(PATRICK WAS THE ONLY ONE TO BE BORN IN AMERICA) It is believed that Maurice
>and Margaret entered the United States through Canada or the St. Lawrence
>Seaway into New York, (we have no documentation on this as yet)
>
> Sorry this is so long...Ill wait to post a query for the FITZSIMMONS side
>:) Thank you for any help.
>Cris
>California
>
>
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> Subject:
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> Canter & Guy + Palmer & Travers
> From:
>
> Murray Lynn <>
> Date:
>
> Wed, 08 Dec 2004 15:57:15 +1300
> To:
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>
>I am looking for information on the Canter and Guy families of Limerick
>City. Both families ran printing/publishing companies there.
>
>The Guys were from Cork (Francis Guy was the publisher of the various
>directories) and had a business at 114 George St in Limerick from 1854
>until about 1914 (as well as the Guy businesses in Cork City).
>
>The Canters were 'native' to Limerick, but as there were only a few
>families in Ireland, I suspect they moved there from England in the
>early 18th Century.
>
>The first I can find were James & Richard Canter who were solicitors in
>Main St in 1769.
>
>A Richard Canter (probably a son of one of the solicitors) married
>Francis Palmer in 1791.
>
>Their son Richard Palmer Canter was born 1796 and two other Canters;
>Joseph Palmer Canter and Peter Palmer Canter were probably also their
>sons.
>
>Richard married Mary Travers in 1817 at St Michael's Limerick. Richard
>set up the Canter printing company in Limerick in 1823 at 12 Francis
>Street. After his death in 1834 the business was run by his wife Mary at
>43 Patrick St and after her death in 1867 it was run by Joseph Canter
>(possibly Richard's brother Joseph Palmer Canter) until it closed in
>about 1870.
>
>Two of their daughters, Mary Ann (1826) and Catherine (1828) married two
>of the Guys, Francis and Joseph.
>
>Their other children included Francis (1820), Richard (1822), James
>(1823) and Margaret (1830).
>
>There was also a William Canter, Bookseller (ca 1840-1860), a J.P Canter
>(Nobility, Clergy & Gentry) 1838 and a J Canter Hay and Straw dealer in
>the late 1880 to early 1890s.
>
>If anyone can fill in some of the many gaps in the family history I
>would be very grateful.
>
>Murray
>
>Christchurch
>
>New Zealand
>
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> Subject:
>
> Re:Discovery Series Ordnance Maps Limerick #64, #65
> From:
>
>
> Date:
>
> Wed, 8 Dec 2004 12:42:53 EST
> To:
>
>
>
>
>Does anyone know of a retail outlet for these maps in the New York City,
>Long Island area.
>
>
>John
>
>Researching Connors, OConnor, Histon, Kennealy, Heffernan, Foley, Palmer,
>deConde, Sugrue, Shackrow, Griffin, Shea and Keating
>


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