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From: Sean Crean <>
Subject: Re: [IRL-SLIGO] O'Crean
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 05:59:49 -0700 (PDT)


Hi Jim,

I am tracing the O'Crean line. My ggfather (Patrick)
was born in Sligo in 1850 and migrated to Belfast with
his brother Michael around 1880 which is where my
gfather and father were both born.

I have reason to believe that his father was a James
Crean but am waiting for receipt of a marriage license
to confirm. I was in Belfast last August and hope to
visit Sligo in September to continue my research. In
the meantime I've got McTernan's books, excerpts from
Woodmartin and O'Dowd's book is on its way to me as we
speak.

While I understand your not tracing at the moment, do
you have any names or dates for your wife's line?

Thanks.

Sean F. Crean
Maine

--- Jim McDonald <> wrote:
> My wife has the name CREAN of Sligo in her line and
> while we are not tracing
> it at the moment I came across the following which
> might be of interest to
> others. The location is Sligo Abbey:
>
> "This tomb belongs to the O'Creans or Creans who
> were the wealthiest people
> in Sligo, in the sixteenth and seventeenth
> centuries, and who expended no
> small share of their wealth on works of art, and,
> more especially, on works
> of art connected with religion. Several monuments of
> theirs which are now
> broken up, occupied the north and south sides of the
> tower. Inside the
> western arch of the tower are sculptured, on two
> small flags, two heraldic
> shields - one bearing the arms of the O'Creans, and
> the other the arms of
> Jones of Banada; and under one of the shields may be
> deciphered, with some
> little trouble, the following curious lines:-
>
> 'Wee two are one by His decree
> That reigneth from eternity
> That first erected have these stones
> Wee Robuck Crean and Alice Jones.'
>
> It would appear probable from these lines that one
> of the O'Creans was
> married to a daughter or niece of Sir Roger Jones,
> from whom the Joneses of
> Banada descend; he and a brother being the only
> Joneses then in Sligo; and
> we might be justified in inferring from the
> suggestive wording of the first
> two lines, coupled with the fact that Sir Roger's
> family was then
> Protestant. and the O'Creans Catholic, that the
> marriage, while duly
> celebrated 'in facie ecclesice', was not contracted
> before a Protestant
> minister, as the civil laws of the day required. At
> the top of the O'Crean
> shield is the date 1625" (O'Rorke. 1889).
>
> O'Rorke thought it likely that the epitaph was
> composed on the principle of
> one found at Launceston in Tasmania.
>
> Jim McDonald
>
>
> Source: O'Rorke, T. (1889) Vol.1. 'History of Sligo
> Town and County'. p.253
>
>
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