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From: "Mary Heaphy" <>
Subject: Re: [IRL-TIP] Clonmel Advertiser July 23rd 1836
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 11:54:42 +0100
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Hi Liz'
I am going to the Library again in a couple weeks and will try and see if
thereis a transcript of the trial for the Hogans mentioned in the piece
below. You never know, it might give a placename, and they could be first
cousins or related.
I haven't given up on Denis yet, Its a pity the Nenagh Guardian wasn't in
print then, its the best of the Tipp newspapers for names and places.
Cheers
Mary
----- Original Message -----
From: "Elizabeth Walker" <>
To: <>
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: [IRL-TIP] Clonmel Advertiser July 23rd 1836


> Hello Mary,
>
> What an interesting email this is for at least a couple of reasons.
>
> Firstly, the Hogan Families - they must have been a feisty lot!
>
> As you know, I am descended from a Denis Hogan who was born
> "Tipperary" ca.1811, and who arrived in New South Wales as a convict
> in 1833/34 on "Parmelia" (2), and whose parentage I am unable to
> find. I wonder if Denis was related to the Hogans who received
> nine months' confinement, as Denis named his first son James, and his
> third son Timothy. I wonder if they are all related to my Denis?
>
> re the Carey name.
>
> Is Carey a common surname all over Ireland, or is it a "localised"
> name, i.e. mostly from Tipperary?
>
> My Denis Hogan married a Margaret Carey (Cary, Kary) who emigrated
> from London to New South Wales in 1834 on the "David Scott" (with her
> sister Julia), and who had at last 4 children by Denis Hogan and
> eventually married him two weeks after the baptism of their second
> son, John (my gt. grandfather). On Margaret's papers it says she
> came from Cork, but maybe that was only then port from which she left
> Ireland, rather than where she was born.
>
> Thank you for all the interesting emails you send regarding
> conditions in Ireland - it gives great background knowledge for those
> of us who are far away in distance and in time.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Liz
>
>
> At 12:07 AM 15/09/2006, you wrote:
>>On Friday last, a poor man, drowned himself in Tyone
>>River,......................
>>
>>
>>Eighteen months imprisonment.
>>.................. Patrick Carey, ...................
>>for affrays.
>>
>>12 months confinement........................
>> and Pat Carey, for assault. John Horan, Martin Dwyer, Pat. Cullen,
>>and James Hacket, for larceny.
>>
>>For Nine months.
>>Denis Hogan, Timothy Hogan, James Hogan, Michael Ryan, Thomas Hanly,
>>Martin
>>Hanly, and John Quigley for affray.
>>
>>
>>
>>For one month........................
>>Pat. Hogan, James Tierney and Thomas Mossip, assault. .................
>>
>>For two weeks.
>>Dan Hogan, Denis Delany, William Quirke, snr. William Quirke Jnr. Barney
>>Maguire, James Delany, and Thos. Fletcher for affray.
>>
>>Mary
>>
>>
>>
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