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Subject: Re: [IRL-TIP] Griffins in Tipperary
Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2006 17:13:53 +0000

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Hi Donna or any skp
I've been reading messages on the digest. I'm a Griffin whose great great grandfather was John Griffin He was born in Tipperary Town, Co. Tipperary c 1822. His father was Michael. His mother may have been a Helen or Catherine.
Since I have quite a bit of specific information, what is the best way to try and find his birth, parents and siblings?
I really would appreciate any help that anybody can give me.
Thank you,
Lynn Griffin
>
> HI, Donna!
>
> Sorry I can't help you with your Ireland questions. I see by your email
> address that you probably have Griffin in your ancestry. I know that is a very
> common name in Ireland, but I have to grasp at any straw that comes along.
>
> Do you have any Gradys in your Griffin line?I have very little information to
> go on. I dont' even know if they came from Co. Tipperary.
>
> Thanks for any info.
>
> Mary
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2006 16:15:56 +0000
> From: "Vicki Perry"
> Subject: Re: [IRL-TIP] Tipperary families and trip
> To:
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> Hi Donna,
>
> If I were you then I would go to Dublin and make use of the genealogy
> advisory service at the National Library (see
> http://www.nli.ie/new_what_res.htm) and also the one at the National
> Archives (http://www.nationalarchives.ie/genealogy/service.html). Take along
> everything that you have and make sure it is clearly laid out so they can
> give you advice on where you can go next.
>
> Your family obviously moved before civil registration began, but there may
> be brothes and sisters that remained in Ireland that would have died after
> 1865, so their deaths may have been registered. See
> http://www.groireland.ie/.
>
> With regards to parish records- the National Library has a copy of a
> microfilm of them, but you will not be allowed access to this. Most other
> parish records are available there. The originals may be in the custody of
> the parish priest and the Cashel and Emly website is vague about access to
> these. I just had a quick look at it and it says that "Not every parish can
> entertain enquiries about its records and will refer you to TFHR, where the
> records of all parishes of Cashel and Emly are indexed and available. Should
> the parish admit enquiry, ensure that you have all relevant details and
> existing variations of spellings." So maybe you will be lucky- perhaps
> someone who has tried this can confirm. I would certainly ask first, there's
> no harm in it.
>
> The Tipperary Family Research Centre is the place where they will do look
> ups for you. Personally I would go for single record searches there. For
> example the next thing you will want will be the marriage of James Cashin
> and Johanna Keating. So ask them to do a single record search for this
> first. Then you have only paid a small amount out and can decide where to go
> next yourself. Check how far back the registers go. There is no point in
> paying for a search if the parish registers for the parish you want don't
> survive early enough.
>
> So most of the resources will be in Dublin. There is also the Registry of
> Deeds, wills at the National Archives and family and estate collections at
> the National Library, among others. When I go to Ireland (I'm going on
> Tuesday), I tend to have a few days in Dublin doing research and then have a
> few more days in the place where my ancestors came from. You probably won't
> find much here but you can get photographs and a real feel for the place
> where they came from, which is as important as finding the records I think
> anyway, which often don't survive in Ireland.
>
> Vicki
>
>
> >From: (Donna and Mike Griffin)
> >Reply-To:
> >To:
> >Subject: [IRL-TIP] Tipperary families and trip
> >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 08:25:23 -0500
> >
> >I'm so glad to find this list and to have a place to get some help with
> >my questions.
> >
> >I'm planning a trip to Ireland the first week of November and I am
> >trying to plan where to visit to do some research. You can tell I'm
> >from the US since I'm thinking I'll just show up at a
> >courthouse/library/archives and be allowed to have fun searching for my
> >families.
> >
> >I'm starting to realize that records are not available to the public.
> >
> >Here are my Tipperary (or is it Waterford) families...
> >
> >Which is it? That's my first question...
> >
> >Robert Cashin was baptized at St. Mary's Irishtown, Clonmel, Co.
> >Tipperary in 1833. I have this record.
> >
> >Robert (and two brothers that I know of, David and Edmond) are the sons
> >of James Cashin and Johanna Keating.
> >
> >There is a James Cashin on Griffith's in St. Mary's parish, Clonmel but
> >it is in Waterford.
> >
> >Robert Cashin married Ellen Fitzgerald at Ss Peter and Paul's, Clonmel,
> >Tipperary (per their marriage record) in 1856. Ellen is the daughter of
> >Daniel Fitzgerald and Bridget McGrath.
> >
> >Robert, Ellen, David and Edmond all arrived in the US in the late 1850s.
> >
> >I have FINALLY come to believe that while Clonmel is in fact in Co
> >Tipperary, the records are kept in Co. Waterford. Is that right???
> >
> >I am also starting to realize that every question I ask at the research
> >center is going to cost me about 95 euro. Is that right????
> >
> >I can't look at records myself, right???
> >
> >Should I try the churches? Do I need to make an appointment?
> >
> >I'm really trying to do a good job planning this trip and sure could use
> >your help.
> >
> >Thank you for sharing your experiences and knowledge with me...
> >
> >Donna
> >
> >
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>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 14:36:58 EDT
> From:
> Subject: Re: [IRL-TIP] Tipperary families and trip
> To:
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> Hi Donna,
>
> You might try www.waterfordcountylibrary.ie . This site has Griffith's
> Valuation/death register/directories etc. You may or may not find members of
> your
> family.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 19:51:48 -0400
> From: "bob ryan"
> Subject: Re: [IRL-TIP] Tipperary families and trip
> To:
> Message-ID: <032401c6e746$e4602130$>
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>
> Hi, you might want to check the Hospital in Clonmel for death records. How
> expensive it is I don't remember. I got a some info there a few years ago.
>
> Bob Ryan
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Donna and Mike Griffin"
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 9:25 AM
> Subject: [IRL-TIP] Tipperary families and trip
>
>
> > I'm so glad to find this list and to have a place to get some help with
> > my questions.
> >
> > I'm planning a trip to Ireland the first week of November and I am
> > trying to plan where to visit to do some research. You can tell I'm
> > from the US since I'm thinking I'll just show up at a
> > courthouse/library/archives and be allowed to have fun searching for my
> > families.
> >
> > I'm starting to realize that records are not available to the public.
> >
> > Here are my Tipperary (or is it Waterford) families...
> >
> > Which is it? That's my first question...
> >
> > Robert Cashin was baptized at St. Mary's Irishtown, Clonmel, Co.
> > Tipperary in 1833. I have this record.
> >
> > Robert (and two brothers that I know of, David and Edmond) are the sons
> > of James Cashin and Johanna Keating.
> >
> > There is a James Cashin on Griffith's in St. Mary's parish, Clonmel but
> > it is in Waterford.
> >
> > Robert Cashin married Ellen Fitzgerald at Ss Peter and Paul's, Clonmel,
> > Tipperary (per their marriage record) in 1856. Ellen is the daughter of
> > Daniel Fitzgerald and Bridget McGrath.
> >
> > Robert, Ellen, David and Edmond all arrived in the US in the late 1850s.
> >
> > I have FINALLY come to believe that while Clonmel is in fact in Co
> > Tipperary, the records are kept in Co. Waterford. Is that right???
> >
> > I am also starting to realize that every question I ask at the research
> > center is going to cost me about 95 euro. Is that right????
> >
> > I can't look at records myself, right???
> >
> > Should I try the churches? Do I need to make an appointment?
> >
> > I'm really trying to do a good job planning this trip and sure could use
> > your help.
> >
> > Thank you for sharing your experiences and knowledge with me...
> >
> > Donna
> >
> >
> > -------------------------------
> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to
> > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the
> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message
> >
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2006 19:59:47 -0400
> From: Mary Hoar
> Subject: [IRL-TIP] Clonmel hospital?
> To:
> Message-ID: <>
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> Do you have an address for the Clonmel hospital?
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2006 20:04:47 -0400
> From: Mary Hoar
> Subject: [IRL-TIP] Clonmel
> To:
> Message-ID: <>
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>
>
> The (RC) Diocese of Waterford & Lismore includes the town of
> Clonmel. These records are held at the Waterford Heritage Center.
> The website is http://www.iol.ie/~mnoc/
>
> I have not used their services since the Euro became the currency of
> the land, so I do not know the cost for record searches.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 20:29:55 -0400
> From: "bob ryan"
> Subject: Re: [IRL-TIP] Clonmel hospital?
> To:
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> reply-type=original
>
> Sorry to say I don't have it. I've been to Clonmel a few times and just
> asked someone where it was and went there. You might be able to Goggle it.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mary Hoar"
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 7:59 PM
> Subject: [IRL-TIP] Clonmel hospital?
>
>
> > Do you have an address for the Clonmel hospital?
> >
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