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Subject: Re: [ITCHEROK] Introduction
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 07:42:39 -0500
I come down the line from Nancy Wards sister:
Descendants of Quatsy
1 Quatsy b: Abt. 1698
. 2 Nancy Full Blood Paint Clan Source: Paul Adams,
..... +Chief Dutch Tauchee Broom Source: Paul Adams,
b: in Tamali, BroomTown, Cherokee Nation, GA m: Abt. 1741 in Chickamunga,
..... 3 Kai-ya-tahee Old Tassel b: Abt. 1720 in Cherokee Nation East,
GA. d: June 1788 in Chilhowie, Little TN
......... +Cherokee Unknown
..... 3 Oo-uo-st b: Abt. 1723
......... +John Watts
..... 3  Tai-Ttsuska "Two Heads" Doublehead b: Abt. 1725 in Cherokee
Nation East, GA. d: August 1807 in Tavern, Cherokee Nation, Tn
..... *2nd Wife of  Tai-Ttsuska "Two Heads" Doublehead:
......... +Sister of Margaret Peggy Scott Vann
..... 3 Mother of Bench b: Abt. 1728 in Cherokee Nation East, GA.
......... +John Benge
..... 3 Wurteh b: Abt. 1730 in Cherokee Nation East, GA.
......... +Nathaniel P. Gist b: October 15, 1733 in Baltimore Cty., MD d:
October 30, 1796 in Clark Cty., KY m: Bef. 1775 Father: Christopher Capt.
Gist Mother: Sarah Howard
..... 3 Pumpkin Boy b: Abt. 1739 in Cherokee Nation East, GA d:
September 1793 in Cherokee Nation East, GA
..... 3 Taleonteeshee b: Abt. 1741 d: Aft. 1819 in AR
..... 3 "Corntassel of Toquoo" Co-A-To-Hee b: Abt. 1742
..... 3 Nancy Na-Ye-Hi Elizabeth Broom Source: Paul Adams,
b: 1750 in Overhill, Cherokee Nation East, GA.
......... +Nathan Hicks Source: Paul Adams, b: 1743 in
Albermarie Parrish, Sussex, VA d: Abt. 1829 in Cherokee Nation East, GA. m:
Abt. 1763 in Cherokee Nation East, GA Father: Robert Hicks Mother: Mary
. 2 Nanyehi Ward
Would love to compare notes!!
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Subject: Re: [ITCHEROK] Introduction
> My families Cherokee blood line
> James Grant Born 1483 Cromarty Scotland. Died 1553 Freuchie, Castle Grant
> Scotland. Married Elizabeth Forbes Born ukn. Died ukn.
> John Grant Born 1507 Freuchie Scotland Died 1585
> Married Margaret Stewart Born ukn Died ukn
> Duncan Grant Born 1527 Died 1581 Dunhill Scotland
> Married Margaret Macintosh Born ukn Died ukn
> John Grant Born 1572 Freuchie Scotland died 1622 Dunhill Scotland
> Married Lilias Murray born ukn died ukn
> John Grant Born 1596 Freuchie Scotland Died 1637 Edinburgh Scotland.
> Married Mary Olgivie Born ukn Died ukn.
> James Grant Born 1616 died 1663 Edinburgh Scotland.
> Married Mary Stewart Born ukn died ukn.
> Ludovic Grant Born 1652 (Of Grant) died 1717 Edinburgh Scotland.
> Married Janet Brodie born ukn died ukn.
> John Grant born 1679 pluscardine Scotland died 1747 death place ukn.
> Married Kathrin Dick born ukn died ukn.
> (Source Emmet Starr, Grant 1.)
> Ludovic Grant was born circa 1698 in Scotland, and died 1755 in Charleston
> South Carolina. He married (1) Elizabeth (Tassel) Coody in Cherokee
> East daughter if KAHYUN TECHEA.
> Ludovic Grant married (2) Unknown Cherokee woman if the Wolf Clan circa
> . She was born circa 1700 ( source Emmet Starr,305,466,561,563 )
> Notes for Ludovic Grant:
> On page 466, Starr states that Ludovic Grant married a woman of the Long
> Clan; However, on page 561 and 563 it states that he married a member if
> Wolf Clan . (Two wifes, or a typo?)
> The name Eughiootie was found in the booklet called Cherokee Blood
> Newsletter-Spring 1983-Vol.1 Her "white mans" name was elizabeth Coody
> name is found in Geneaology of Old & New Cherokee indian family by George
> Morrison bell. SR.)
> Elizabeth was the daughter of KAN-YAN-TEE-HEE the son of Corn Tassel Born
> circa 1670 at Chota City Of Refuge. She also had a brother named Chief Old
> Tassel who was killed under a flag of truce in 1788 and was noted for an
> eloquent speech he gave at Long Island.
> Ludovic was the Clan Chief of the Grant holdings in Scotland ( Note: There
> controversy as to his being Clan Chief at such a Young age; around 18
> old. There is also controversy as to The line, Some believe he was son of
> Ludovic not John.)
> After losing the war in the Jacobite Rebellion ludovic was captured by the
> British at Preston and banished to the " New World" . Ludovic arrived in
> Carolinas and moved in with the Cherokee. His cousins all went to Boston
> The Caribbian area.
> Sir Alexander Cuming, in his brief Journal which appeared in the
> Register of London for 1731, described his adventures in the Cherokee
> in 1730 when, with the aid of Ludovic grant, he convinced seven young
> Cherokees ( Including future Chief , ATTAKULLAKULLA, the "Little
> to visit England and King George II. This was an attempt by the King to
> recruit the Cherokee to fight the French.
> In a statement recorded on page 301 of the Charleston ,South Carolina
> Court in the book of "1754-1758" in a sworn statement of january 12, 1756
> says, "It is about thirty years since I went into the Cherokee Country
> I have resided ever since" "I speak their language".
> Ludovic Grant Blood Scottish
> Christened: April 12, 1702, Irvine Scotland
> Emigration 1: May 07, 1716, from Scotland to the "New World"
> Emigration 2: circa 1726, To Cherokee Nation as an Indian Trader.
> Note: "Indian Countryman" of Cheoah.
> Occupation: Fur Trader
> Starr's Notes: B657
> Child of Ludovic Grant and Elizabeth Coody was Mary Grant Born circa 1727
> Cherokee Nation East, Tennesee and died Circa 1765 in Cherokee Nation
> Mary Grant (Long Hair Clan) married William Emory circa 1746. He was born
> Circa 1720 in England, and died in Cherokee Nation East, Tenessee (Source:
> Emmet Starr,305,561,563.)
> Children of Mary Grant and William Emory are:
> i. Mary Emory, b. 1747 Cherokee Nat.East
> ii. Elizabeth Emory, b. c.1748
> iii. Susanna Emory, b. c. 1749
> iv. William Emory JR, b. c.1750 died Will's
> Knob PA.
> Note: Will Emory, was the Renagade Cherokee who ran with the Shawnees and
> became known as Captain Will. The name is somewhat infamous in frontier
> kentucky annals because of Captain Will's relationship to Daniel Boone
> an attack on Boonesboro.
> Child of Mary grant and William Emory Elizabeth Emory Married her second
> husband John Rogers SR.
> born 1755 died ukn. Blood English. Occupation Trader.
> Note: John Rogers (arguably) started the Rogers Surname which include
> William Charles Rogers, Diana (Tiana) (Rogers) Houston (General Sam
> Houstons wife) and Will Rogers.According to the Chronicles Of Oklahoma
> interesting Old White Trader John Rogers SR. departed the East with a
> of emigrants on Oct, 17 1817 arriving among the Cherokees settled on the
> White River on April, 18, 1818". John Rogers lived and traded with the
> Indians since pre Revolutionary War times. He first married Elizabeth Due
> Grandaughter of Ludovic Grant first known White trader among the Cherokee.
> After her death he He married Elizabeth's daughter from a previous
> Jennie Due they had two daughters Tiana and Martha. Tiana Rogers Married
> General Sam Houston and Martha Rogers was the mother of Jessie Chisolm (
> Chisolm Trail ).
> Children of John Rogers SR. and Elizabeth Emory:
> i. Charles Rogers SR, b. c. 1774
> ii. Aky Rogers, b. c. 1776
> iii. John Rogers JR. Captain b.1778 d.1846
> iv. James Rogers, b c. 1780
> v. Nannie Rogers, b. c. 1782 d. bef. 1819.
> Charles Rogers SR. married (1) Nannie Downing, (2) He married Rachel
> born Circa 1790 and died after 1851.she was the daughter of Daniel Hughes
> Elizabeth Ward.
> Note: Rachel Hughes is descended fron a long line of famous Cherokees
> including Nancy Ward A.K.A. NANYE-HI-FIVEKILLER Born 1738 in Chota City Of
> Refuge North Carolina Cherokee nation, Now Tennesee. She died at
> Ford, Cherokee Nation, ( Now Polk County Tennesee ).
> There was a tremendous amount of information written about Nancy Ward. She
> mentioned in Teddy Roosevelt's Book On The West, The Virginia State
> The South Carolina State Papers, In Mooneys Book and The Draper
> Collection.There is a Chapter of The American Daughters Of the Revolution
> named after her in Tennesee., and there is a Descendants Of Nancy Ward
> Association on Oklahoma.
> As a child Nancy ward was called "Wild Rose" Later after having been lost
> having a vision of the spirit people helping her find her way home she was
> named "Nanye'hi" which means "One who is with the Spirit People". Later
> During the Battle of Taliwa against the Creeks she was Chewing the bullets
> her husband Kingfisher was using. He was shot and killed. She then took up
> his Rifle and joined the fight. For her heroics in Battle she was named
> "Ghi'hau" or Beloved Woman". In her teens and a widowed mother of two
> daughters she was given the title of Chieftainess. As "Beloved Woman" she
> a Peace Negotiator and Ambassador for her people. She became a strong
> advocate of human rights for both red and white men.She had a strong voice
> for peace and attended many meetings between the white settlers the
> government and her people. She was involved in many of the treaties. Nancy
> ward brought the first cows th the Cherokee Nation. She wrote the "White
> father" President saying "Our people would have more hoes, plows, seed,
> Cotton carding and looms for weaving. They would learn your way of
> Cultivation. If you would send these things we will put them to good use".
> And he did. He also sent agents to administer and help. Nancy was a
> Revolutionary war patriot in that she gave aid (Cattle and Clothing) to
> Colonel Seiver and his men during the Revolution.
> Nancy ward had a vision where she saw " A great line of our people
> on foot. Mothers with babies in their arms. Fathers with small children on
> their back. Grandmothers and Grandfathers with large bundles on their
> They were marching West and the "Unaka" ( White Soldiers ) were behind
> They left a trail of corpses the weak, the sick who could not survive the
> journey". This dream proved to be prophetic. On December 29, 1835 Thirteen
> years after her death, a removal treaty was signed. The Cherokee called
> journey the "Nunna-da-ult-sun-yi" The Trail Where They Cried. The Trail Of
> Nancy ward A.K.A
> Tsituna-Gus-Ke -"Wild Rose"
> Nanyi'hi -"One who is with the spirit people"
> Ghi'hau -"Beloved Woman/Mother"
> Skiagusta - "War Woman Of Chota"
> Granny ward
> Nancy ward was of the Wolf Clan she lived in the overhills settlement.
> were called the Overhills People ( Cherokee ). She died in 1822.
> Nancy's husband was Bryant Ward. His father was Sir Francis Ward. Other
> fanous Cherokees in this line are Chief Tame Doe born circa 1700 died
> 1775 and The Supreme Chief of the Cherokee Nation Amatoya Moytoy born 1674
> died ukn.
> Children of Charles Rogers SR. and Rachel hughes:
> i. Levi Rogers b. c. 1810
> ii. Elizabeth Rogers b. c. 1812 d. c. 1852
> iii. Richard Rogers b. c. 1810 d.ukn.
> iv. Joseph Rogers b. c. 1816 d. ukn.
> v. Charles Rogers JR. b. c.1818 d. c. 1844
> vi. John Rogers b. c. 1820 d. ukn.
> vii. Alzira Rogers b. c. 1824 d. ukn.
> viii. Catherine Rogers b. c. 1822 d. 1852
> Levi Rogers married Margaret Fields in 1810 she was born 1810 died ukn.
> only child was:
> i. James Rogers, b. c. 1835 d. c. 1876
> James Rogers married Mary Polly Sanders born circa 1838 died circa 1877
> was the daughter of Mitchell Sanders and Polly Overtaker. Children of
> Rogers and Mary sanders were:
> i. Levi Thomas Rogers b. c. 1866 d. ukn.
> ii. Cynthia Ann Rogers b. c. 1874 d. ukn.
> iii. David Mitchell Rogers b. c. 1877 d. ukn.
> Note: Mary Polly Sanders's Grandfather was Alexander Saunders (Sanders), A
> friend of the Rogers family from the old days. It is thought he may have
> killed Doublehead in helping out Captain John Rogers the "White Trader".
> Levi Thomas Rogers Cherokee Roll# Saline District Orphan Roll# 12380
> (1) Emma Ida Hicks then married (2) Susan Smith Cherokee Roll # 12381
> 1882 died ukn. she was the daughter of John Smith and Sarah (Sallie)
> Whitewater Cherokee roll# 1697. Sallie's father was John Whitewater
> roll# 2117 born ukn. died ukn.
> My brick wall in this line is the Children of Levi Thomas Rogers and Susan
> (Smith) Rogers.
> My line are all from the Fort Smith Arkansas, Fort Gibson, Braggs and
> Muscogee Oklahoma area .my line as handwritten by an aunt at the Cherokee
> Nation (Talequah Oklahoma) is as follows
> Next in line is Sallie Bullock roll# non citizen Thomas Cookson Cherokee
> Thomas Cookson Married Sallie Collier . Their daughter was Delilah Cookson
> Cherokee Roll# 29995. She married Amon Hale Craig roll# ukn. born 15 Feb
> in Gainsboro,Jackson County Tenessee died 18 Nov. 1923 in Braggs Oklahoma.
> Amon owned a General Store in Braggs . He was charged with, and later
> aquitted of murder. Delilah was a very respected midwife who lived from
> to 1982 in Braggs Oklahoma. Delilah had 13 children. Amon Hale Craig
> apparently had a Second marriage to Nancy (Nannie) Ratliff born 21 feb
> she married Amon on 3 Sept. 1891. Their child was Amon Hale Craig Jr. born
> June 1895 died ukn.
> This line then descends as follows
> John Edward Craig roll# non citizen my Great grandfather
> Levi (Rogers) Craig (female) (my grandmother) roll# too late.
> Thomas Jefferson Craig my (Grandfather) roll# 1294
> Thomas Dewey Craig (My father) Born April 11, 1928 died August 11. 1996
> This line traces my known Cherokee blood lines. If I can help you or you
> help me fill in any blanks please feel free to E-Mail
> Bobby Craig
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