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From: "jfawcett" <>
Subject: [IGW] Land/Leaseholders index 1838/39 Co Tipp
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 09:23:57 +1000


An index to Lease and Land Holders, 1838 and 1839 ,for
the Divisions of Nenagh, Clonmel and Cashel. in Co Tipperary
http://www.standard.net.au/~jwilliams/irevote.htm

I am still working on Clonmel for 1839, and the 1838 indexes, so please bear
with me.


In Tipperary it was necessary for men to meet certain qualifications to
secure their right to vote (which usually included leasing or owning land to
a certain value). As part of the proceedure of ensuring their right to
vote,if they wished to take part in the election of a member (or members)
for Parliament it was necessary for them to attend nominated Quarter
Session's sittings and register their intent to vote. A Register was then
compiled by the Clerk of Courts of all those men intending to vote. These
Registers were then sometimes copied into local newspapers.

Jenny Fawcett has compiled indexes to those men intending to vote in 1838
and 1839,as published in a Tipperary newspaper, which has created a list of
land and leaseholders for the Divisions of Nenagh, Cashel and Clonmel, and
the Boroughs of Cashel and Clonmel.

These indexes, in turn, give an indication of landowners and leaseholders in
a particular region.
They cannot be confidently used as a true indication of all land/lease
holders in the district, as some men may have chosen not to exercise their
right to vote (for a variety of reasons), and many would have had their
applications challenged and/or rejected, if they did not meet the necessary
qualifications (including the value of their leasehold).Alternatively if a
man owned land in several districts,he might (?Improperly)register to vote
in each of those regions and thus show up on several rolls:) e.g. John Ryan
who lived at Boulick, might own lands in Boulick and lease lands at Ballina,
so he might register at both towns of Nenagh and Thurles with intent to
vote,and therefore he will show up twice in voting rolls.
A man did not have to live in the region he intended to vote in, he simply
had to own or lease land to a certain value.(eg.Thomas Power who lives in
Springfield, Co Waterford, owns lands in the Nenagh division of Co
Tipperary. At the elections he has the right to vote, as he is a land
owner. )
Also, in 1839 many men had to re-register for the right to vote, so these
indexes might show both registrations.Also,these indexes are made up of
several published lists, and sometime reflect the former registration of an
applicant.
The usual format for the information given in relation to the voters
was:(eg)
Surname: Addis
Firstname: Thomas
Occupation: Farmer
Place: Cramps Castle
Lands Townland of Cramps Castle
Baroney: Middlethird.
Qualification: As a Freeholder (£10)


best wishes
Jenny Fawcett


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