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From: Sandy <>
Subject: [KYCLAY] Re: KYCLAY-D Digest V01 #63
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 17:51:02 -0600
References: <200103270433.f2R4XXC32180@lists2.rootsweb.com>


My Grandpa William "Bill" "Billy" Buttery
was from Clay county Kentucky and
being called "hillbilly" to him was "fightin' words".
He considered, being called "hillbilly" as offensive as a black person being called the "N" word.
Remember it was not an endearment it was a cut down.
Food for thought

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> KYCLAY-D Digest Volume 01 : Issue 63
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> Today's Topics:
> #1 Re: [KYCLAY] names for mountain fo []
> #2 Re: [KYCLAY] names for mountain fo []
> #3 Re: [KYCLAY] names for mountain fo []
> #4 [KYCLAY] Ancestry.com tree [Donna Brewer <]
> #5 Re: [KYCLAY] names for mountain fo []
> #6 Re: [KYCLAY] names for mountain fo ["Coral K Babb" <]
> #7 [KYCLAY] names for mountain folks ["KR Coon" <]
> #8 Re: [KYCLAY] names for mountain fo []
> #9 Re: [KYCLAY] names for mountain fo []
> #10 Re: Re: [KYCLAY] names for mountai []
> #11 Re: [KYCLAY] names for mountain fo ["Bill & Donna Gabbard" <wcg-djg@mi]
> #12 Re: [KYCLAY] names for mountain fo [Cassandra McDonough <.]
> #13 Re: [KYCLAY] names for mountain fo ["Penny Ferguson" <]
> #14 Re: [KYCLAY] names for mountain fo []
> #15 Re: [KYCLAY] names for mountain fo []
> #16 Re: [KYCLAY] names for mountain fo ["Michelle Campbell" <guineveredula]
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> Subject: Re: [KYCLAY] names for mountain folks
> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 05:28:18 EST
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> Well, I thought it was common knowledge that a hillbilly is from Tennessee
> and a briarhopper is from Kentucky. I always liked the family story like the
> one great uncle who was married to a lady that liked to run around. He had a
> wooden leg so when she wanted to get out, she hid his leg. They lived in
> Buckhorn, Ky
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> Subject: Re: [KYCLAY] names for mountain folks
> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 07:55:37 EST
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> To:
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> Shucks, We have those in Arkansas/Oklahoma too! I happen to be a Laplander, I
> live in Eastern Oklahoma on the line. Ramona
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> Subject: Re: [KYCLAY] names for mountain folks
> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 08:02:51 EST
> From:
> To:
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> In a message dated 03/26/2001 5:35:19 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> writes:
>
> > Well, I thought it was common knowledge that a hillbilly is from Tennessee
> >
>
> I always thought a person from Tennessee was a ridge runner.
> Vietta
>
> PS. Adding to the list of descriptors for mountain folks...especially Clay
> Countains...how about
> honest
> straightforward
> down-to-earth
> kind
> warm
> witty
> compassionate
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> Subject: [KYCLAY] Ancestry.com tree
> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 05:11:52 -0800 (PST)
> From: Donna Brewer <>
> To:
>
> My family tree has finally been uploaded to
> Ancestry.com. Some of the surnames from Clay County
> and surrounding counties include: COLLINS, COTTON,
> GIBSON, WESTERFIELD, FIELDS, DAY, WILSON, GRIFFIN,
> BREWER, WILLIS, SPURLOCK, HELLARD, SEABORN, HENSLEY,
> McHARGUE, YOUNG, FINLEY, ROGERS, MOBERLY, and STERGIL.
>
> I still have names to add, but at least this is a
> start. If you want to see this in print, there is a
> copy at the Clay Co. Historical Society in Manchester.
>
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> Subject: Re: [KYCLAY] names for mountain folks
> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 08:26:39 EST
> From:
> To:
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> Hi, I have always heard people from Tennessee described as ridge runners,
> and people from Kentucky described as briar hoppers. And I am from Tennessee
> and my husband was from Kentucky. In Ohio, they call us rednecks. annn
>
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> Subject: Re: [KYCLAY] names for mountain folks
> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 09:37:47 -0500
> From: "Coral K Babb" <>
> To:
>
> How about adding:
> STUBORN
> INDEPENDENT
> PRIVATE
> DON'T MESS WITH HIS PROPERTY LINE
> DON'T ASK TO SIGN PAPERS
>
> With us, who needs Rory Kennedy?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 8:02 AM
> Subject: Re: [KYCLAY] names for mountain folks
>
> > In a message dated 03/26/2001 5:35:19 AM Eastern Standard Time,
>
> > writes:
> >
> >
> > > Well, I thought it was common knowledge that a hillbilly is from
> Tennessee
> > >
> >
> > I always thought a person from Tennessee was a ridge runner.
> > Vietta
> >
> > PS. Adding to the list of descriptors for mountain folks...especially Clay
> > Countains...how about
> > honest
> > straightforward
> > down-to-earth
> > kind
> > warm
> > witty
> > compassionate
> >
> >
> > ==============================
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> >
> >
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> Subject: [KYCLAY] names for mountain folks
> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 09:49:16 -0500
> From: "KR Coon" <>
> To:
>
> I am not from "the hills" I was born in Maryland----But My parents are both from the mountains of Kentucky as were their ancestors before them. In my research and reading I have come across this-----back when the mountain region was being settled----the people there--through the years--seemed to use--certain phrases--words--slang of the--"Old Queen's English"---or the english of William Shakespeare's time------from "William" you get ---"Bill" or "Billy"---and they were living in the "hills"------------so there you get the name "Hillbilly".
>
> Rosalie Valentine Coon
>
> Looking for the following surnames in my family--Valentine,Rice,Campbell,Simpson,Napier,Slusher,Taylor,Hopkins,Warren
>
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> Subject: Re: [KYCLAY] names for mountain folks
> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 11:01:49 EST
> From:
> To:
>
> People from Ohio are called Buckeye's
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> Subject: Re: [KYCLAY] names for mountain folks
> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 11:52:53 EST
> From:
> To:
>
> I haven't heard anyone called a briar in a long time. I think the
> northerners pretty much call all Kentucky and Tennessee folk hillbillies and
> rednecks. Sort of interchangeable.
> Lynda
>
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> Subject: Re: Re: [KYCLAY] names for mountain folks
> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 12:24:05 -0500
> From:
> To:
>
> Cousins,
> Thanks much for the names. I am still compiling the list so let me know if
> you
> have others. And I still hear briar a lot -mostly from other briars...kind
> of a
> badge of honor.
>
> Stephen
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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> Sent: Saturday, December 30, 1899 12:00:00 AM
> To: <>
> Subject: Re: [KYCLAY] names for mountain folks
>
> > I haven't heard anyone called a briar in a long time. I think the
> > northerners pretty much call all Kentucky and Tennessee folk hillbillies
> and
> > rednecks. Sort of interchangeable.
> > Lynda
> >
> >
> > ==============================
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> Subject: Re: [KYCLAY] names for mountain folks
> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 13:10:22 -0500
> From: "Bill & Donna Gabbard" <>
> To:
>
> How about straddlepole? Cause Kentucky were neutral in Civil War, they
> would straddle to either side. I remember being called that when I lived in
> Ohio & Georgia when growing up and still hear it being used in these parts.
>
> Love in Christ & God Bless you,
> Bill & Donna Gabbard of East Bernstadt, Ky.
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> Subject: Re: [KYCLAY] names for mountain folks
> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 16:02:35 -0600
> From: Cassandra McDonough <>
> To:
>
> Being from Texas, redneck means a different thing here than it does in KY.
> I've heard my northern relatives refer to my mom's people as appalachies, dirt
> farmers, hillbillies, and and aunt refered to them as "those people", her own
> particular flavor of racism. Mostly they were appalachies and hillbillies.
>
> wrote:
>
> > I haven't heard anyone called a briar in a long time. I think the
> > northerners pretty much call all Kentucky and Tennessee folk hillbillies and
> > rednecks. Sort of interchangeable.
> > Lynda
> >
> > ==============================
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> Subject: Re: [KYCLAY] names for mountain folks
> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 06:51:34 -0500
> From: "Penny Ferguson" <>
> To:
>
> Hi Teresa, my maiden name was Feltner, and others: Brewer, Nantz, Wooton,
> Fender, Lewis, Maggard, Adams, Melton, Turner, Hoskins, Baker, Alpha,
> Fields, probably others I can't remember right now!
> Penny
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> Subject: Re: [KYCLAY] names for mountain folks
> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 22:06:51 EST
> From:
> To:
>
> Greetings Stephen,
>
> I also have many a relative that hail from Clay and Laurel counties. You
> mention your descendency from GILBERT, BOWLINGs and a few others. I have
> several Felix Gilberts that were either distant cousins or married to my
> great great aunts and such. I also have many BOWLING "cousins". However my
> direct "Clay County" descendency is from the TAYLOR and HACKER lines.
>
> len taylor
> http://members.aol.com/predal
>
> In a message dated 3/25/2001 9:08:13 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> writes:
>
> > I am a storyteller, have been one for a number of years. I tell stories
> > about my
> > family and Clay County - where my family has lived, up on Redbird River
> > since the
> > early 18oos. Felix Gilbert was my great great great Grandpa and I claim
> > kin to
> > the Gilberts, Bowlings, Arnetts, Smiths, Murphys and of course the Hollen
> > (Holland)clan. I told last year at the Ohio State Fair and am telling
> > Mother's
> > Day weekend at the Appalachian Festival in Cincinnati. I am trying to
> > compile a
> > list of names people call mountain folks - good and bad. I need help
> > coming up
> > with these names.
> >
> > Some names I have already - mountain folks, mountain man, hill jack, briar,
> > briarhopper, Appalachian, from the sticks, country boy, country bumpkin,
> > Lil Abner,
> >
> > So, do you have any additions? I appreciate your help.
> >
> > Alos, how can a feller who loves Clay County and has told stories about Clay
> > County folks all over Kentucky, Tennessee and Ohio get invited to Clay
> > County to
> > tell stories? I would love to tell at some of the festivals. Do you have
> > any
> > pull with the big wigs?????
> >
>
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> Subject: Re: [KYCLAY] names for mountain folks
> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 23:22:57 EST
> From:
> To:
>
> Penny,
> Hello, Melton,May, Combs, Bowling, Fugate, Hooker, Coyle, Carpenter
> is in my line.
>
> Teresa
>
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> Subject: Re: [KYCLAY] names for mountain folks
> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 21:37:06 -0700
> From: "Michelle Campbell" <>
> To:
>
> Ms. Ferguson,
>
> I have been searching for Feltners from SE Kentucky. I'm specifically looking for Johnny Feltner that married Martha Neace. They had a son named Carl.
>
> Any information would be helpful.
>
> Michelle Campbell
>
> 3/26/01 6:51:34 AM, "Penny Ferguson" <> wrote:
>
> >Hi Teresa, my maiden name was Feltner, and others: Brewer, Nantz, Wooton,
> >Fender, Lewis, Maggard, Adams, Melton, Turner, Hoskins, Baker, Alpha,
> >Fields, probably others I can't remember right now!
> >Penny
> >
> >
> >==============================
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> >

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