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From: Pattsy D <>
Subject: [KYCLAY] Re: KYCLAY-D Digest V02 #239 Carol fin Ocala
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 10:15:57 -0700 (PDT)
In-Reply-To: <200207160004.g6G04bms014899@lists2.rootsweb.com>


Carol, you asked about how to get marriage records from Salt Lake Family History Library. When I was there this is what they had; Each state has rows of books. They are broken down into counties. Then they have eary records of the state that aren't categorized by counties. Some of the books are as follows; Early marriages of Kentucy, Early Death records for different states. There is so much that you can't begin to imagine there were books from that far back.
Then in another building they have Family History's that people have donated. They had so many books in the library they moved the family histories to the Joseph Smith Memorial Building. They are located on the 4th floor of that building. They had census books for all the states where you could look up the last name and find where each name was located for that census year. If you get a chance to go it is a great place to do research. Hope this helps with your question. Pattsy D
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KYCLAY-D Digest Volume 02 : Issue 239

Today's Topics:
#1 Re: [KYCLAY] Davis Smith (daniel) ["Raholt" ]
#2 [KYCLAY] Arty Means []
#3 Re: [KYCLAY] Arty Means ["Clarence Dossett" ]
#4 Re: [KYCLAY] David & Mary Ann Yeag []
#5 Re: [KYCLAY] David & Mary Ann Yeag []
#6 Re: [KYCLAY] Barnett's, Stewart's []
#7 Re: [KYCLAY] David & Mary Ann Yeag [Joyce Collins #8 Re: [KYCLAY] Clay History Book Pic []
#9 Re: [KYCLAY] Help please []
#10 Re: [KYCLAY] Clay History Book Pic ["Kay Adams" ]
#11 Re: [KYCLAY] Clay History Book Pic []
#12 [KYCLAY] Hooker Cemetery, Clay Cou []
#13 Re: [KYCLAY] Hooker Cemetery, Clay []
#14 Re: [KYCLAY] Davis Smith (daniel) []
#15 Re: [KYCLAY] Jess Wilson ["M Clark" ]
#16 Re: [KYCLAY] 1860 Census look up ["Shannon Armbruster" #17 Re: [KYCLAY] Clay History Book Pic []
#18 Re: [KYCLAY] 1860 Census look up [Joyce Collins #19 Re: [KYCLAY] Clay History Book Pic ["Kay Adams" ]
#20 Re: [KYCLAY] Re: KYCLAY-D Digest V ["Gene Stillings" #21 Re: [KYCLAY] 1860 Census look up ["Shannon Armbruster" #22 Re: [KYCLAY] Re: KYCLAY-D Digest V []

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______________________________ > ATTACHMENT part 2 message/rfc822 Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 19:43:20 -0400
From: "Raholt"
To:
Subject: Re: [KYCLAY] Davis Smith (daniel)

Holly, I am confused by something you have posted. You have Daniel Smith,
son of Zachariah Smith and Mahala Smith Means Smith as marrying Mary Jane
Eversole, but the book of marriages for Clay County shows that David Smith
married Mary Jane Eversole on Jan 29, 1891. It shows Daniel Smith to have
married Sarah Hubbard on Nov 11, 1900. Is this the same person only he
married twice and his first marriage is listed under the name David? Below
is the 1910 census record for Daniel Smith and I don't see Lida Smith listed
so I'm even more confused. It does list the Zachariah and Hugh you
mentioned, but no Lizza Smith either. Can you clear up some of this
confusion for me?

Richard Holt

Daniel Smith
Enumeration District: 0054 Color: W 1910
Age: 39 Birth Place: Kentucky
Visit: 0187
County: Clay
Relation: Husband
Relatives: Wife Sarah 34, Kentucky
Son Zachariah 16, Kentucky
Son Hugh 14, Kentucky
Son Mitchell 12, Kentucky
Daughter Vinia 06, Kentucky
Daughter Lillie 04, Kentucky
Son Alex NR, Kentucky

1920 shows the additon of two more children:

Clarence age 8
Ida age 6


----- Original Message -----
From: "holly goodwin"
To:
Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 10:41 AM
Subject: Re: [KYCLAY] Davis Smith (daniel)


Hi Linda
Daniel is my G grandpa. His parents are Zachariah Smith b.1822-26
I found him in the 1870 census. Zachariah m. Mahala Means b.1840 (married
1-29-1891) Zachariah was a miner.
Zachariah S/O Paul b.abt1800 and Elizabeth Stewart Smith b.abt1800
Both paul and elizabeth born in N.C. Elizabeth D/O Daniel Stewart N.C.

I've been to manchester with Mom. she remembers Daniel well. he was a mean
man. She took us to where he used to live. People still live in his old
house. There is a cemetery almost in his front yard. Churches use to hold
church services in the cemetery and have a dinner afterwards. He hated to
hear the singing and the preaching. there were lots of tree in this
cemetery. So he chopped the trees down so they wouldn't have shade to sing
under the next year. They did anyway, which made him more upset.

Mary was Daniel's first cousin. I wish I could prove differently.
But This info I have found in Clay co. census.

children of Daniel and Mary married 1-29-1891
Zachariah 1894
Lizza 1895
Hugh 1896
Lida 8-31-1898 d.1944 this is my grandma

Children of daniel and Sarah Hubbard married 11-11-1900
Mitchell 1898
Vinia 1904
Lillie 1906
Alex 1910

Children of mary and May hubbard married ?
Flora 1904
Ardonia 1910

I have more on Mary if you like. let me know.

Holly
>From:
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>To:
>Subject: Re: [KYCLAY] Davis Smith
>Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 10:53:21 EDT
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>In a message dated 7/9/02 10:21:34 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> writes:
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> > daniel smith and Mary Jane Eversole
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>Can you give me info on Daniel Smith please? Dates, area, parents?
>Thanks,
>Linda (Smith)




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______________________________ > ATTACHMENT part 3 message/rfc822 Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 22:21:36 EDT
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Subject: [KYCLAY] Arty Means

Does anyone know what happened to Artie Means.
Did he die in the Civil war ?
One note from someone (forgot which) said he died in Fl .. ..do you know
where & when or how?


"Everyone seems normal until you get to know them"
Betty Gurley Young





______________________________ > ATTACHMENT part 4 message/rfc822 Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 23:29:05 -0400
From: "Clarence Dossett"
To:
Subject: Re: [KYCLAY] Arty Means

Hi Betty, I think you was the one who told me about ARTY MEANS!
Hugs Cuz, Katie


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Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 10:21 PM
Subject: [KYCLAY] Arty Means


> Does anyone know what happened to Artie Means.
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______________________________ > ATTACHMENT part 5 message/rfc822 Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 23:49:19 EDT
From:
To:
Subject: Re: [KYCLAY] David & Mary Ann Yeager Jones

Guilda,

I didn't have any birth/death dates on Nancy, thanks much. How were you able
to get them? You know, if she was born in 1799, she would have been 93 at
her death, or in 1806 she would have been 86. Either way, that's a
surprisingly long life for the 1800's, isn't it?! Do you have any
birth/death dates on David?

Here's the number for the Clay County Genealogical and Historical Society --
606-598-5507. The person I spoke with was Lisa Wombles, she sounded really
nice but busy. Maybe if two of us call for the same marriage record, it
might help. I called about a month ago, I think. I was out of town for two
weeks, got back a week ago Sunday, and I know I didn't call the week I was
packing to leave. So it's been more than a month. I should keep better
records. Don't know, Guilda, maybe we both need keepers.

Carol in Ocala



______________________________ > ATTACHMENT part 6 message/rfc822 Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 23:52:23 EDT
From:
To:
Subject: Re: [KYCLAY] David & Mary Ann Yeager Jones

Guilda,

I forgot to mention that the marriage date I have for David and Nancy is
October 20, 1824. I think some kind person on this list or the Laurel list
sent it to me.

Carol

______________________________ > ATTACHMENT part 7 message/rfc822 Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 23:54:04 EDT
From:
To:
Subject: Re: [KYCLAY] Barnett's, Stewart's & Bowling's of Clay KY & Hamilton Ohio

John,

Excuse me for butting in, but are you by any chance the John Davis who worked
for Henkel Corporation?

Carol in Ocala

______________________________ > ATTACHMENT part 8 message/rfc822 Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 00:19:57 -0400
From: Joyce Collins
To:
Subject: Re: [KYCLAY] David & Mary Ann Yeager Jones

Message text written by INTERNET:
>
Guilda,

I didn't have any birth/death dates on Nancy, thanks much. How were you
able
to get them? You know, if she was born in 1799, she would have been 93 at
her death, or in 1806 she would have been 86. Either way, that's a
surprisingly long life for the 1800's, isn't it?! Do you have any
birth/death dates on David?

Here's the number for the Clay County Genealogical and Historical Society
--
606-598-5507. The person I spoke with was Lisa Wombles, she sounded really

nice but busy. Maybe if two of us call for the same marriage record, it
might help. I called about a month ago, I think. I was out of town for
two
weeks, got back a week ago Sunday, and I know I didn't call the week I was
packing to leave. So it's been more than a month. I should keep better
records. Don't know, Guilda, maybe we both need keepers.

Carol in Ocala
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______________________________ > ATTACHMENT part 9 message/rfc822 Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 04:02:02 EDT
From:
To:
Subject: Re: [KYCLAY] Clay History Book Picture of George Goforth

Kay

On page 237 of the Clay History and Families book is a photo of Robert and
Cella Goforth anda short family "history".

Onpage 113 is an article written by a fourth grader, Amanda Lane Baker about
George Washington Goforth.

I could make copies and mail them to you if you want. Just send me a mailing
address.

Ray

______________________________ > ATTACHMENT part 10 message/rfc822 Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 06:32:08 EDT
From:
To:
Subject: Re: [KYCLAY] Help please

I looked in the 1997 issue of area code 606 and did not find any of the names
you put in the e-mail. Sorry.

Ray

______________________________ > ATTACHMENT part 11 message/rfc822 Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 09:15:07 -0400
From: "Kay Adams"
To:
Subject: Re: [KYCLAY] Clay History Book Picture of George Goforth

Ray, I would love to have that information.
I have tried to get the Library here to get another copy of that book but no
luck yet.
Please send me that information.
Kay Goforth Adams
P.O. Box 632
Middlesboro, KY

______________________________ > ATTACHMENT part 12 message/rfc822 Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 10:03:56 EDT
From:
To:
Subject: Re: [KYCLAY] Clay History Book Picture of George Goforth

I'm the granddaughter of Millard Webb, son of Theo b. 1867, son of Julius
Webb b. 1834 in NC maybe Buncombe co/Yancey co.NC , who married Mahalia Baker
(b. 1838 in clay co.,ky.) on 11-25-1852from Clay co.were all born in clay co. near what they call Dreyfus now,what was then
called Bark road( where Dora & Millard lived) My mother,Fairy Webb, (b.1924/ &
d.1989 in Franklin,Ohio), grew up in that area & married my dad,Floyd
Campbell from Estill co.,KY.. I know that Jullius & Mahalia are burried in
Redlick. Julius' father was Eli, (nickname-Aily) b.NC moving to clay
co.KY.Would you know if the 4th. grader, Amanda Baker, was relation to
Mahalia Baker of clay co.? I have no info of Mahalia's parents.I've just
begun looking up connections.
sincerely,
Kandy

______________________________ > ATTACHMENT part 13 message/rfc822 Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 11:36:48 EDT
From:
To:
Subject: [KYCLAY] Hooker Cemetery, Clay County, Ky.

Hello,

There is a Hooker Cemetery in Clay County, Ky., and there are alot of
Hooker's buried there. I am trying to get in touch with the descendants of
the Hooker's who are buried there. Most of the Hooker graves have been
decorated recently so it seems like there has to be someone still alive from
their families who are doing the decorating. Hooker Cemetery is on Hooker
Cemetery Road and it is not too far from the Engine Cemetery.
My Hooker family came from Clay County, Ky. so I am trying to make a
connection with other Hooker descendants from that area.

Thank you,
Charlotte Miller

______________________________ > ATTACHMENT part 14 message/rfc822 Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 11:59:57 EDT
From:
To:
Subject: Re: [KYCLAY] Hooker Cemetery, Clay County, Ky.

Looking for a Webb family cementary from Clay co.Ky hear one was in Redlick.
My Webb family came from clay co near Dreyfus,Ky on what was called Bark road
now is Dreyfus road. Would like contact from anyone with family from that are
of Clay co or even may be Madison co. not sure. My grand parents were Millard
Webb & Dora Brock. email me at I'm
daughter of Fairy Webb Campbell.
Sincerely,
Kandy

______________________________ > ATTACHMENT part 15 message/rfc822 Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 13:42:57 EDT
From:
To:
Subject: Re: [KYCLAY] Davis Smith (daniel)

Holly

Thanks for the info on Daniel Smith. However this is not the one I am
looking for. My Daniel married Nervesta/Vestie Baker.

I just returned from Clay County and my parents took me up Mud Lick Cemetery
where they are buried. My gosh, you should see the steep hill.

Thanks again.

Linda

______________________________ > ATTACHMENT part 16 message/rfc822 Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 13:52:00 -0700
From: "M Clark"
To:
Subject: Re: [KYCLAY] Jess Wilson

Jesse,
My ancestors was from Clay County ,Jackson, Perry. My grandma was Martha Mae
Bishop Gibbs her father was Alex Bishop and her mother was Nancy Fox Bishop
Fields, Nancy father was fountion Fox and Fountion father was Johnny Fox, My
dad is Jesse Gibbs and my grandpa was Otto Gibbs and his dad was James
Robert Gibbs and James Robert dad was Aberham Gibbs was married to Jane
Collins and Rebecca Hensley and Aberham dad was Henry Gibbs was married to
Susan Howard. Otto Gibbs mom was Alice McFarland Gibbs and her father and
mother was garland and Matilda McFarland. I was just wanting to know if any
of these people were in your book. Tim Spencer ancestor on the Fox and
Bishops are about the same as mine. But my main concern is about the Gibbs
side there is a lot of unanswer question, I have ran into a brick wall.
thanks for reading Martha Gibbs
----- Original Message -----
From: Vanita Earley
To:
Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2002 2:17 PM
Subject: Re: [KYCLAY] Jess Wilson


> Jess
> What exactily does this book have in it ?
> I have seen where people have ask for it.
> does it have anything about bengs in it or cornetts, taylors.
> Thanks Vanita
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jess Wilson"
> To:
> Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 10:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [KYCLAY] Jess Wilson
>
>
> > Timothy, The Fiddler is available. Order from the historical Society or
> me.
> > The price is 25 dollars plus 4 for mailing. Make check payable to Clay
> > County Historical Society. Mail to society of me.
> > JESS WILSON
> > 794 POSSUM TROT ROAD
> > MANCHESTER LY 40962
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Timothy & Valorie Spence
> > To:
> > Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 8:42 PM
> > Subject: [KYCLAY] Jess Wilson
> >
> >
> > > Hi Jess,
> > > Is the Fiddler available in hard back ? I have the Sugar Pond, it is
in
> > > hard back and I would like to have a matching set.
> > >
> > > Tim Spence
> > >
> > >
> > > Quote for the ages:
> > > "Those who would sell their "LIBERTY" for "SECURITY deserve neither
> > > "SECURITY" nor "LIBERTY"".
> > > Benjamin Franklin
> > >
> > > Timothy & Valorie Taylor Spence
> > >
> > > Genealogy Page: S.E. KY. BRANCHES
> > > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~twspence/sebranch.html
> > >
> > > KyGenWeb County Coordinator for the Counties of:
> > > Clay COUNTY GENWEB
> > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyclay/clay.html
> > > CLAY ARCHIVES
> > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ky/clay/clayar.html
> > > Owsley COUNTY, GENWEB
> > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyowsley/owsley.html
> > > OWSLEY ARCHIVES
> > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ky/owsley/owsleyar.html
> > > PERRY ARCHIVES
> > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ky/perry/perryar.html
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>

______________________________ > ATTACHMENT part 17 message/rfc822 Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 15:23:36 -0400
From: "Shannon Armbruster"
To:
Subject: Re: [KYCLAY] 1860 Census look up


I don't know if anyone would mind looking up John Hatchet Baker in the Clay County , Ky 1860 Census. I sent away for his birth certificate for John Hatchet Baker with the date of birth being January 20, 1857 in Clay Co and the form I received back said that they were unable to find him and that I may want to request a census look up for 1860. His parents are Hettie Cornett and Robert Boston Baker.
Thank you ,
Shannon
----- Original Message -----
From
Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 11:11 AM
To:
Subject: [KYCLAY] Native American Ancestry

Recently, a new member asked about trying to prove her ancestry of Cherokee
Bloodlines in Southeastern, KY Counties.

The Cherokee, Chickasaw, and Shawnee were the three major tribes that
influenced Kentucky. Cherokee continued to live after 1754 in the
southeastern portion of the state. Some of the early settlers did intermarry
with these Native Americans.

Very few records can be found for Native Americans in Kentucky because:

There were/are no Native American reservations in Kentucky.
Since there were no tribes living within the state, the government of
Kentucky did not keep records of the tribes.

Due to the prejudices of the day, Native Americans chose not to disclose
their heritage in public documents. This is why many people have difficulty
in finding evidence of Native American ancestry in census records

Agencies that may be helpful to you in your research:
Cherokee Nation, P. O. Box 948, Tahlequah, OK 74465
Phone: (918)456-0671 or (OK Toll Free) 1-800-256-0671

A source for much more research data is at the web site of:
> http://www.kyhistory.org/Research/FAQs_Native_American.htm

One other major source is that of family research in Clay, Leslie, Perry,
Harlan, Knox, Letcher Counties that may be in Public Libraries where native
americans are listed in the family trees of the research.

Happy Trails in Your esearch!
JOHN in CA (born in KY)

______________________________ > ATTACHMENT part 18 message/rfc822 Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 15:33:00 EDT
From:
To:
Subject: Re: [KYCLAY] Clay History Book Picture of George Goforth

Kay,

I should be able to get thematerialcopied tomorrow or Wed.

Ray

______________________________ > ATTACHMENT part 19 message/rfc822 Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 16:37:18 -0400
From: Joyce Collins
To:
Subject: Re: [KYCLAY] 1860 Census look up

RESPONSE:
1860 Clay Co. "annotated" Fed. Census sold by James WELCH:
Dwelling 780
BAKER, Robert, 60, b. VA, farmer
. . Hetta, 35, b. Clay Co.
. . Harrison, 14, b. Owsley Co.
. . John, 3, b. Owsley Co.
. . John, 1, b. Owsley Co.

NOTE: This family is at Dwelling #79 on the 1850 Owsley Co. Fed. Census
I have no explanation as to why there are TWO John's in this family. The
transcriber also placed a question mark after the age, 60, as though it
would not easily be read. You may discover he is actually of a different
age. I am not related and really don't know.

I don't see them on the 1870 Clay Co.

Joyce Taylor Collins
La Palma, CA

Message text written by INTERNET:
>
I don't know if anyone would mind looking up John Hatchet Baker in the
Clay County , Ky 1860 Census. I sent away for his birth certificate for
John Hatchet Baker with the date of birth being January 20, 1857 in Clay Co
and the form I received back said that they were unable to find him and
that I may want to request a census look up for 1860. His parents are
Hettie Cornett and Robert Boston Baker.
Thank you ,
Shannon
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______________________________ > ATTACHMENT part 20 message/rfc822 Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 16:55:51 -0400
From: "Kay Adams"
To:
Subject: Re: [KYCLAY] Clay History Book Picture of George Goforth

Thanks Ray,
Appreciate your help.
Kay

______________________________ > ATTACHMENT part 21 message/rfc822 Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 16:50:25 -0500
From: "Gene Stillings"
To:
Subject: Re: [KYCLAY] Re: KYCLAY-D Digest V02 #237

You can search this free site.
http://www.familysearch.org
It is a LDS site and is extensive.
Enjoy.
Gene Stillings
Manchester, TN
Stillings, Tompkins, Lawson, Patterson
----- Original Message -----
From:
To:
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 3:34 PM
Subject: Re: [KYCLAY] Re: KYCLAY-D Digest V02 #237


> Roy,
>
> May I jump in here with a question of my own? How were you able to get a
> copy of a marriage certificate from Salt Lake City? --How do you contact
> them to make such a request? Educate me, please!!
>
> Thanks,
> Carol in Ocala
>
>

______________________________ > ATTACHMENT part 22 message/rfc822 Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 18:00:16 -0400
From: "Shannon Armbruster"
To:
Subject: Re: [KYCLAY] 1860 Census look up

Thank you Betsy and Joyce for your help. It looks like I need to looks like I had the wrong county and that it should be Owsley.
Thanks again ,
Shannon

----- Original Message -----
From: Joyce Collins
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 5:04 PM
To:
Subject: Re: [KYCLAY] 1860 Census look up

RESPONSE:
1860 Clay Co. "annotated" Fed. Census sold by James WELCH:
Dwelling 780
BAKER, Robert, 60, b. VA, farmer
. . Hetta, 35, b. Clay Co.
. . Harrison, 14, b. Owsley Co.
. . John, 3, b. Owsley Co.
. . John, 1, b. Owsley Co.

NOTE: This family is at Dwelling #79 on the 1850 Owsley Co. Fed. Census
I have no explanation as to why there are TWO John's in this family. The
transcriber also placed a question mark after the age, 60, as though it
would not easily be read. You may discover he is actually of a different
age. I am not related and really don't know.

I don't see them on the 1870 Clay Co.

Joyce Taylor Collins
La Palma, CA

Message text written by INTERNET:
>
I don't know if anyone would mind looking up John Hatchet Baker in the
Clay County , Ky 1860 Census. I sent away for his birth certificate for
John Hatchet Baker with the date of birth being January 20, 1857 in Clay Co
and the form I received back said that they were unable to find him and
that I may want to request a census look up for 1860. His parents are
Hettie Cornett and Robert Boston Baker.
Thank you ,
Shannon
----- Original Message -----<

______________________________ > ATTACHMENT part 23 message/rfc822 Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 18:23:16 EDT
From:
To:
Subject: Re: [KYCLAY] Re: KYCLAY-D Digest V02 #237

Gene-which Tompkins are you researching?

Nell E. Lamantia
Miamisburg, Ohio
http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/l/a/m/Nell-E-Lamantia/index.html



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