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From: "Jim Breece" <>
Subject: Re: [KYCLINTO] Re: CHEEK, SHELLEY, SMITH, ALLEN, Clinton co KY
Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 13:44:02 -0500
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Kevin;

Thanks for the information.

Until a couple of days ago I could only go back to Hinton and Harriet Weldon
Allen in Granville, Co. N. C. and the only connection I had to Cheek was
hearing my grandmother speakof her Aunt Glatia Cheek. I always assumed that
the Cheek's had also relocated to the NW Arkansas area as my grandmother
seemed to know her Aunt Glatia. I have not been able to find them on the
census reports.

Where doe's Candace show up on the record as Candace Allen? Like you, I kept
wondering where does Willis Cheek fit in as he keeps showing up in the Allen
Household.

I have a lot of data down stream from Aaron Andrew but very little of his
ancestors. Wish I could have been of more help to you.

Jim
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> Surnames: CHEEK, ALLEN, SMITH, SHELLEY, BLAIR, STOCKTON
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> Thanks, Jim, for sharing information linking ALLEN and CHEEK families in
> KY. After I read your exchanges with Robin Poindexter (nice to hear from
> you again, Robin; I had no valid e-mail address for you these past few
> months) my memory clicked and I recalled seeing a marriage record for
> Gallatia ALLEN in Clinton county. Sorry I did not note the exact date,
> but it was in 1873, book 3, page 453. She married John H CHEEK. I
> suppose he was related to the CHEEK families I research in Clinton county
> but I am not certain how. He could be the John CHEEK mentioned below
> whose parents were James A CHEEK and Mary GASKILL. The marriage entry
> gave his middle initial as H, and it looked like W to me in the 1850
> census, but Jim Estes reported it as M in a tree he placed on Ancestry.
> It's easy to mistake those. That John CHEEK was born in NC about 1848,
> which makes him a good candidate for marriage in 1873.
>
> Candace ALLEN CHEEK certainly could also be related to Hinton ALLEN and
> his son (your great grandfather) Aaron Andrew ALLEN. Here are some Cheek
> census data.
>
> 1850 Clinton Co KY: (misindexed in Ancestry.com as "Malone Tuck"), Mabane
> Cheek (35,VA) laborer, Candis (25,VA),
> John (3,VA), Beaufort (2,VA), NOTE: married in NC and must have come to
> KY about 1849
> 1850 Clinton co KY (misindexed Ancestry.com as "James Suck"): James A.
> Cheek (29, NC) farmer, Mary Cheek (31, NC),
> Augustus W (7,NC), Mary E<C?> (3,NC), John W (2,NC), Willis Cheek
> (27,NC) laborer, Thomas Frost<?> (16,KY) laborer, twelve houses from
> Mabane Cheek
> 1860 Clinton Co KY: Maborn Cheek (44,NC) farmer, Candes (45,NC), John
> (14,NC), Bedford (11,NC), Jams (8,KY), Sarah C (7,KY)
> 1870 Albany, Clinton co KY: Candis Cleek (49,KY), Buford (20,KY) works on
> farm, James (17,KY), works on farm, Walter (16,KY) works on farm
>
> James A Cheek and Mary are probably Mayburn CHEEK's brother and
> sister-in-law. There is a marriage bond for James A Cheek and Mary L
> Gaskill, dated 04 Dec 1845 in Orange county, NC which could be theirs. I
> have not yet suceeded in locating an entry for that family in 1860;
> however, there is an 1864 marriage (book 1, page 331) for James A Cheek to
> Cynthia N STOCKTON, and I wonder if it is a remarriage for that same
> fellow.
>
> The census entries for Candace, all in Clinton co KY, can be used to
> estimate her birth date. The 1850 age of 25 for Candace may not be
> reliable, since whoever gave it (a neighbor, perhaps?) also thought the
> family were all born in VA. Based on the 1860 age of 45, and the 1870 age
> of 49, Candace was probably born in NC between 1815 and 1821. Lacking any
> better information I tend to favor the latter date. There is a marriage
> bond record for her (to Mebane Cheek) dated 18 Dec 1847 in Orange county,
> NC (an area of North Carolina that was thick with CHEEKs at that time).
> That would make her 26 then. A birth date of 1815 for her would instead
> make her 32 at marriage, which is possible but would make her a bit old
> for a woman beginning to have children back then. According to some
> researchers, that was Mayburn Cheek's second marriage. His name has been
> spelled a lot of ways, but the more reliable records (death certificate of
> his daughter, Charity CHEEK SHELLEY, and family!
> bible page of his son, James M CHEEK) have it spelled as Mayburn or
> Mayben. Mebane is the name of a town in the Orange county, NC area, so
> that might expain how the index entry for the marriage bond came to refer
> to him as Mebane CHEEK (handwriting was probably poor).
>
> With Hinton ALLEN born 1818 and Aaron in 1841, is it possible either could
> have been brother to Candace ALLEN?. The other ALLEN family I know of in
> connection with CHEEKs in Clinton co KY is that of Drury (Andrew) and
> Rebecca ALLEN, also of North Carolina. Robin has named Hinton as a child
> of Drury and Rebecca. Willis CHEEK, reputed by some to be brother to
> Mayburn CHEEK, apparently lived with that ALLEN family for more than two
> decades after they relocated to Clinton county. I cannot say just what
> relation Willis was to them. None of the ALLEN daughters was ever listed
> as CHEEK in the census, and I found no record of a marriage between them.
>
> The CHEEK family left few records in Clinton county, despite a long stay.
> The militia roll in 1861 included Willis CHEEK and an M CHEEK (Mayburn?).
> There are also a few marriage records in Clinton county with the CHEEK
> name. The only one I saw that mentions Willis CHEEK is actually the
> marriage of Rebecca ALLEN (daughter of Charity ALLEN), as follows (book 7,
> page 105): Thomas B Brown + Rebecca Allen, ceremony performed at Willis
> Cheek's place, 8 Mar 1885. That presumably was the farm Drury ALLEN left
> when he passed away. The marriage bond was filed 6 Mar, with Cynthia D
> Blair and C L <hard to read initials> Shelley as witnesses, ceremony
> performed by L. S. Shelley, min of MCCS. Cynthia was Cynthia D SMITH
> BLAIR, older sister to my wife's great grandmother Elizabeth Jane SMITH
> (who married Mayburn CHEEK's son, James M CHEEK in 1871). According to
> the 1880 census, Rebecca ALLEN would have been only 14 or 15 when married.
> That the marriage record refers to Willis Chee!
> k's place suggests, but does not prove, the old Mr. ALLEN was gone by
> then, that Willis was still around in 1885, and that he had perhaps
> acquired or inherited the ALLEN farm. I note, though, that the "Clinton
> County, Kentucky Census 1890" (reconstructed), 976.902 C641ce, available
> at the library in Frankfort had no mention of Willis CHEEK. Since that
> "census substitute" was constructed partly using property tax roles for
> the county, I suppose it could be no deed was ever filed for the property.
> Alexander B (Beaufort, Bedford or Buford) CHEEK (who married Emarine
> TUGGLE) is the only CHEEK mentioned in that reference. Emarine TUGGLE
> CHEEK and her son, Moses CHEEK, are the only CHEEKS for whom I found a
> death or burial record in the county.
>
> 1850 house 94, south district, Alamance co, NC: Drury Allen (60,NC)
> farmer, Rebecca (60,NC), Charity (20,NC), Rose (17), Susan (11)
> 1860 Clinton co KY: Drewry Allen (71,NC) farmer, Rebecca (71,NC), Charita
> A (23,NC) housework, Rosa A (25,NC) sewing, Willis Cheek (29,NC) farmer
> 1870 Clinton co KY: Drury Allen (76,NC) farmer, Rosa A (33,NC), Charity
> (30,NC) works at home,
> Rebecca E (7m,KY), John Dickerson (7,KY), Willis Cheek (41,NC) farmer
> 1880 Neathery and Shelley, Clinton co KY: Willis Cheek (45,NC NC,NC)
> farmer, Andrew Allen (90,NC, NC,NC) widower,
> Rosa (35,NC NCNC), Charity(33,NC NC,NC), Rebecca E (9,KY, not give,NC ),
> Sidney M (8,KY, not given,NC)
>
> These data indicate birth dates about 1789 for Drury ALLEN and his wife,
> Rebecca CHAMPION. In 1840 they would have been about 50 years old.
> Candace ALLEN should have been between 19 and 25 years old at that time.
> Do you have a proven or suspected 1840 census entry for the family of
> Hinton ALLEN? There are two Drury ALLEN records in NC in 1840, again in
> counties near Orange county (Person, Alamance, and Granville are all in
> that area).
>
> The one in Granville county has:
> male 50-59 years old,
> female 40-49 years old (plus one 70-79 years old),
> two male children 10-14 years of age,
> two female children 10-14 years old, and
> one female child 20-29 years old
>
> The other Drury ALLEN record is from Person county, and that family (which
> is next door to one headed by a Sarah ALLEN) has:
> male 50-59 years old,
> female 40-49 years old,
> one male child under 5,
> one male aged 10-14,
> two males aged 20-29 (Hinton ALLEN and <?> ALLEN?),
> one female child under 5 (Susan ALLEN?),
> one female aged 5-9 years (Rose ALLEN?),
> one female aged 15-19 (Charity ALLEN?), and
> one female aged 20-29 (Candace ALLEN?).
>
> Charity and Rose ALLEN aged very slowly once they reached adulthood, so
> the 1850 record is probably the most accurate indicator for calculating
> their birth dates. In 1840 Charity ALLEN should have been about 10, her
> sister Rose about 7, and her sister Susan about 1. The record from Person
> county seems to be the better fit for that information. The older ALLEN
> girl in the 1840 Person county record could be Candace ALLEN. Tthere were
> two males aged 20-29 in that record, and one of them could have been
> Hinton ALLEN.
>
> If it was so that Hinton and Candace ALLEN were brother and sister, then
> Willis CHEEK would I think have been the brother of Drury and Rebecca
> ALLEN's son-in-law, Mayburn CHEEK, and therefore also brother to Charity
> ALLEN's brother-in-law. That could explain his long residency at the
> Drury and Rebecca ALLEN farm. Also, if Charity ALLEN and Candace ALLEN
> were sisters, Candace ALLEN CHEEK might have named her daughter, Charity
> CHEEK SHELLEY, after her own sister, which is logical. I suppose to prove
> this someone must find reliable birth records from the counties in North
> Carolina. Do you know whether anyone in central NC has prepared a
> reference work similar in quality to the one Jack Ferguson did for Clinton
> county, KY?
>
> Kevin Kelly
>
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