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From: "Sparkle" <>
Subject: [KYKNOX] Looking for my mother's mother's KINSLOW's WALKER and RYAN line... they lived in Whitley, Knox, and Wayne Counties...
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 01:44:25 -0500


Hello. I am trying to learn more about my Kentucky side of the family...

Here is what I have on our line is so far on my mother's mother's KINSLOW line... they lived in Whitley, Knox, and Wayne Counties...

My WALKER ancestors and their related families... We now know that our "Jesse WALKER", husband of Rachel Cherry is aka William 'Jesse' WALKER. William Jesse WALKER is 1/2 Cherokee. His mother was Katherine 'Kate' LONG who was full Cherokee and his father was William WALKER. William Jesse WALKER also had a brother names James WALKER. William Jesse WALKER knew and fought along with L. Col. William Brannon BALL and Capt. William CRISPIN in the Civil War. William Jesse WALKER was in the Civil War and fought in the Infantry(KY/AL). At one time he fought with the Alabama Infantry. It has been said that he was about 5'3" in stature, was thin, had a ruddy complexion and coal black hair, he had a long sharp nose and narrow chin. William Jesse WALKER's brother James WALKER had a daughter who married Josiah 'Josh' BRINKLEY. They had 5 sons... two of which were Tom and George. There was a cousin somewhere named Jeff BRINKLEY. Katherine 'Kate' LONG's parents were full blood Cherokees out!
of the North Hills of NC and only had Indian names. Katherine 'Kate' LONG's husband was William WALKER and went by John WALKER. John WALKER's parents were both Indians from the North Hills of NC. Katherine 'Kate' LONG and her husband William 'John' WALKER came out of the North Hills of NC to the lands there in south central KY. We find their descendents in Whitley and Knox counties.

In doing some family research recently and talking to an old family elder, I learned that ole Nathaniel HOLT also went by James Nathaniel HOLT/James HOLT. We just knew him as Nathaniel... while the records and others knew him as James HOLT.

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Here is our mother's mother's updated direct line:

Moytoy 1 (B: ~1687, Chota, City of Refuge, Cherokee Nation, NC; D: ~1770; Parents: Father: Amatoya Moytoy (B: ~1640, Chota) and Mother: Quatsy (B:~1650, Tellico, TN) and Woman of the Wild Potato Clan (B: ~1686)

Woman of (Chickamauaga Cherokee) Wolf Clan (B:~1704) and Oconostota (Oconostota: Clan: Ani'-Ga'tâge'wi = Kituah or Wild Potato (Wa-Wli Vann), ~1704, Tanasee-March 1783)

Jennie of (Chickamauaga Cherokee) Wolf Clan (B:~1726) and Johann Conrad (~1720 - ~1754)

Nathan Hicks, and English Trader settled with the Cherokees before the American Revolution (B: 06 Nov 1743, VA) and married ~ 1758 Na'Ye'Hi/'Na'Ne'He'/Nancy Wolf of the Chickamauga Cherokee Wolf Clan, B: ~1743, Cherokee Nation, GA)

Elizabeth Hicks and Eliphus/Eliphas Holt/Hold

James Nathaniel Holt and Abbigail Clanton (Great aunt of Ike and Billy Clanton, OK Corral Tombstone AZ)

Drury Holt and Elizabeth 'Betsy' Rogers

Martha Holt and Joseph R. Ryan

Drury/Drewry Ryan and Sena (Sina or Serena) Ann Walker

Rachel Ryan and Thomas Kinslow

William Paul Kinslow and Rose Cecilia Dougherty

(William Paul Kinslow always said that his mother was descended from a Cherokee Chief.)

Rosanne 'Rose' Gertrude Kinslow and William C. Linder

my mom and dad

then us kids

then our kids

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This my mother's mother's family...

William Paul Kinslow (born: 04/15/1878, died: 11/04/1950) had 13 children with Rose Cecilia (Dougherty) Kinslow (born: 06/09/1878, died: 08/19/1949). When they were children, they entertained (played musical instruments, danced, and sang) during the breaks in between the boxing matches.


Their Children are:

Rose Gertrude (Kinslow) Linder (my maternal grandmother)
Dennis Kinslow
Al Kinslow
Leo Kinslow
Mildred Kinslow
Catherine (Kinslow) Murphy
Mary (Kinslow) Aitken
Helen (Kinslow) Dillon (?)
William Paul Kinslow, Jr. (I believed he died very young)
Joseph Kinslow (the last of his sibling to die)

Most of the Kinslows are buried in the Holy Sepulcher Cemetery, Mt Airy,
Philadelphia, PA

Surnames on Mom's side: Brown, Brooks, Dougherty, French, Fury, Hadel, Kinslow, Linder, North, Piquette, Seidel, Pendleton;

Places of Origin: Baden Germany, Donegal Ireland, England

Related Surnames on Mom's side: Hadel, Kinslow, Lawson, Rose, Harry


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this was given to us by a cousin...

MY KINSLOW-RYAN (HICKS) Family:

Joseph R. Ryan - 1787-1873, s/o William Ryan

Joseph R. Ryan was my ggg grandfather. He was born Sep 7, 1787 probably in VV, although it very well could have been NC. He died Feb. 6, 1873 in Ketchen, Scott Co., TN, and is buried in the Ryan cemetery.

He married Martha Holt and they raised a large family in Campbell and later Scott Co., TN. Martha's parents were Drury Holt and Elizabeth (Betsy) Rogers.

Descendants of Joseph R. Ryan

1 Joseph R. Ryan b: Sep 7, 1787 in Va / WV / NC d: Feb. 6, 1873 in Ketchen, Scott Co., TN

. +Martha (Evelyn) (Pattsey) Holt b: 1794 in TN d: 1852-1858 in Scott Co., TN m: Bef. 1810 in Campbell Co., TN Father: Drury Holt Mother: Elizabeth (Betsy) Rogers

........ 2 Elizabeth Ryan b: Abt. 1810 in KY or TN d: Aft. Jun 23, 1848

............ +Trammell - d: Aft. 1841

........ *2nd Husband of Elizabeth Ryan:

............ +William Hays - b: 1812-1815 in TN m: Jun 23, 1848 in Whitley Co., KY Father: William Hays Mother: Susan or Susannah Lay

........ 2 David Ryan b: Jun 27, 1813 in Campbell Co., TN d: Nov 1850 in Whitley Co., KY

............ +Emila (Amelia) Trammell b: Jun 22, 1818 in KY d: May 18, 1870 in Whitley Co., KY m: Abt. 1835 in KY (Father: James Trammell Mother: Rachel) (this is where Cousin John ' Tsa'ni' ' GrosVenor's differs from me...his ancestors.)

........ 2 Drury/Drewry Ryan b: Feb. 25, 1816 in Campbell Co., TN d:Mar 24, 1885 in Wright Co., MO ((this is where my/our line comes out of... my ancestors.)

............ +Sena (Serena) Ann Walker b: Oct. 10, 1815 in KY (one source: of Wayne Co., KY) d: Jun 1884 in Wright Co., MO m: Dec 13, 1835 in Wayne Co., KY Father: Jesse Walker, Jr. Mother: the widow Rachel (Cherry)... see notes above on her Cherokee Walker line.

........ 2 Sarah or Sally Ryan - Abt. 1895 b: 1818-1820 in Campbell Co., TN d: Abt. 1895 in Pulaski Co., KY

............ +Richmond Taylor b: 1817 in NC d: Seep 1899 in Pulaski Co., KY m: Dec 17, 1841 in Campbell Co., TN

........ 2 Joel Ryan - b: Nov. 20, 1822 in Campbell Co., TN d: Jul. 4, 1896 in Williamsburg, Whitley, KY (Goldbug ?)

............ +Jane (Jeannie?) Creekmore b: May 26, 1825 in Whitley Co., Ky d: Jan 7, 1913 in Mountain Grove, Wright, MO m: Oct. 19, 1843 in Campbell Co., TN Father: Horatio Gates Creekmore Mother: Lurany (Lurena) Meadors

........ 2 William H. Ryan - b: 1823 in Pleasant Grove, Scott, TN d: 1867 in TN ?

............ +Mary (Polly) Trammell - b: 1821 in Campbell Co., TN d: Bef. 1870 in Pleasant Grove, Scott Co., TN m: Aug. 22, 1839 in Pleasant Grove, Scott Co., TN

........ 2 Malinda (Lindy) Ryan - b: Jul. 6, 1825 in Campbell Co., TN d: Oct. 7, 1903 in McCreary Co., KY

............ +Daniel or David Strunk - b: 1820 in Whitley Co., KY d: Sep. 23, 1888 in McCreary Co., KY m: Mar 27, 1849 in Campbell Co., TN

........ 2 Dorcas Ryan - b: 1828 in Campbell Co., TN

........ 2 Martin B. Ryan - b: Jul. 5, 1830 in Campbell Co., TN d: Aug. 26, 1894 in Monroe Co., IN

............ +Amelia or Emelia or Emeline (Polly) Hatfield - b: Dec. 17, 1829 in of Scott Co., TN d: Jan 2, 1895 in Bloomington, Monroe, IN m: Feb. 22, 1849 in Campbell Co., TN Father: Joseph Hatfield Mother: Elizabeth Gibson / Lovett. Polly Hatfield is descended from George Hatfield, ancestor of 'Devil' Anse Hatfield (Hatfield and McCoys Feud)

........ 2 Alley (Ally) Ryan - b: 1835 in Campbell Co., TN do: Aft. Oct. 3, 1861

............ +Thomas or James Hays - b: 1838 in TN d: Aft. 1861 m: Jun 3, 1856 in Scott Co., TN

........ 2 Moses S. Ryan - b: Dec 14, 1839 in Campbell Co., TN d: Aug. 21, 1901 in Scott Co., TN

............ +Sarah Smith - b: Abt. 1844 d: Aft. 1881 in TN ? m: Jan 15, 1863 in Whitley Co., KY

........ 2 Cornelius Ryan - b: 1842 in Scott Co., TN d: Aft. 1876 in KY ?

............ +Barbara Parmley - b: Abt. 1847 in Wayne Co., KY ? d: Aft. 1900 in KY ? m: Seep 10, 1867 in Wayne Co., KY Father: Little John, Mother: Anna (Annie) Duncan

........ 2 Jacob L. Ryan - b: 1829 in Campbell Co., TN d: Bef. Jan 1871 in Whitley Co., KY

............ +Kesiah Creekmore - b: Oct. 20, 1836 in Whitley Co., KY d: Aft. 1906 m: Feb. 19, 1852 in Whitley Co., KY

........ 2 Lucy Ryan - b: 1815 in Campbell Co., TN d: in Wayne Co., KY ?

............ +Britton - b: 1805 in TN d: in Wayne Co., KY ? m: Nov. 23, 1851 in Wayne Co., KY Father: Evan Walden / Wallen Mother: Jane

*2nd Wife of Joseph R. Ryan:

. +Elizabeth Pemberton - b: 1815 m: Dec 5, 1858 in Wayne Co., KY Father: George (James?) Pemberton Mother: Mary Lyon

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this was given to us by a cousin...

1 Drury (Drewry) Ryan b: Feb 25, 1816 in Campbell Co., TN d: Mar 24, 1885 in Wright Co., MO; buried: Wolf Creek Cemetery, west of Norwood, Wright Co., Mo. Photos of gravestone and cemetery taken by John Ryan, summer 1998

+Sena (Serena) Ann Walker b: Oct 10, 1815 in KY (one source: of Wayne Co., KY) d: Jun 1884 in Wright Co., MO; Buried: Wolf Creek Cemetery, west of Norwood, Wright Co., Mo m: Dec 13, 1835 in Wayne Co., KY UNPROVEN - Father: Jesse Walker, Jr. (Sena Walker's family was said to have been there with Jesse James' mother at the Coroner's Inquest Healings into Jesse James' Murder. Along with Mrs. Walker... there was also a Mrs. Turner accompanying Jesse James' mother to the Coroner's Inquest Healings into Jesse James' Murder. This Mrs. Turner is my dad's Turner ...cousin.)

Mother: the widow Rachel (Cherry?)

........ 2 Thomas Ryan b: Sep 29, 1836 in Campbell Co., TN d: Sep 5, 1888 in Wright Co., MO

............ +Emily K. (C) Stephens b: May 18, 1840 in Whitley Co., KY d: Sep 19, 1876 in Wright Co., MO m: Apr 12, 1857 in Whitley Co., KY Father: Joel Stephens Mother: Jane Thomas

........ *2nd Wife of Thomas Ryan:

............ +Mary Ghann b: 1839 in Tennessee d: Aft. Jul 3, 1880 in Wright Co., MO ? m: Jul 8, 1877 in Wright Co., MO

........ 2 Marcus Ryan b: 1837-1838 in Campbell Co., TN d: Oct 28, 1864 in Andersonville Prison, GA

............ +Eliza Walters or Waters b: 1836 in Whitley Co., KY d: ? m: Jan 4, 1858 in Whitley Co., KY

........ 2 John C. Ryan b: Mar 26, 1839 in Campbell Co., TN d: Feb 11, 1912 in Douglas Co., MO

............ +Elizabeth 'Betty' Hayes b: Dec 2, 1842 in Whitley Co., KY d: Oct 17, 1907 in Douglas Co., MO m: Mar 3, 1859 in Whitley Co., KY Father: James Hayes, Sr Mother: Nancy A. Mahan Descendant contact: John ' Tsa'ni' ' GrosVenor

........ 2 Martha Jane Ryan b: 1840 in Campbell Co., TN

............ +Ishmael or Isacemond Hayes b: 1846 in of Campbell Co., TN m: Oct 8, 1864 in Campbell Co., TN Father: James Hayes, Sr Mother: Nancy A. Mahan

........ 2 Elizabeth 'Betty' Ryan b: Apr 11, 1842 in Whitley Co., KY d: 1908 in Norwood, Wright, MO

............ +James Mortimer Hays, Jr b: Nov 2, 1841 in Flat Rock, Whitley, KY d: Jun 6, 1921 in Bakersfield, Kern, CA m: Apr 10, 1860 in Whitley Co., KY Father: James Hayes, Sr Mother: Nancy A. Mahan

........ 2 Joseph Ryan b: Dec 9, 1843 in Campbell Co., TN d: Feb 19, 1937 in Norwood, Wright, MO

............ +Mary Jane Hayes or Hays b: May 17, 1849 in KY d: Nov 20, 1888 in Norwood, Wright Co., MO m: Abt. 1864 in Wright Co., MO Father: James Hayes, Sr Mother: Nancy A. Mahan

........ *2nd Wife of Joseph Ryan:

............ +Mary Martha Raney b: Abt. 1864 in of Norwood, Wright, MO d: Aft. Feb 1, 1899 in Norwood, Wright, MO m: Abt. 1890 in Norwood, Wright Co., MO

........ 2 William Milton Ryan b: Jun 22, 1845 in Cumberland, Kentucky/Campbell Co., TN d: May 5, 1908 in Council Bluffs, Pottawattamie, IA Descendant contact: Ellen English John Ryan.

............ +Sarah Ann Clary b: Mar 12, 1851 in Cumberland, Kentucky/Campbell Co., KY d: Jul 18, 1937 in Chickasha, Grady, OK m: Dec 22, 1870 in Macomb, McDonough, IL Father: Edmond (Edward) Clary b: 1810 in Ireland Mother: Sarah Ann (Lewis).

(DCP: More family stories are: William Milton Ryan is said to be the 'Wild Bill' Ryan who rode with Jesse James and his gang. Edmond (Edward) Clary b: 1810 in Ireland Mother: Sarah Ann (Lewis)..... these connect with my Cobbs/Cobb-Lewis line. Both mom's and dad's ancestors and their related kinsmen both came out of VA and IL... coincidently out of the same communities. Jesse James' mother's ancestors can be found on the records of the Bruton Church, Colonial Williamsburg, VA and some of them go back to Kent England. Both sides also have connections in McDonough County, IL.... so it is not so believable that mom' and dad' are both connected to Jesse James' family.)

........ 2 Larkin Ryan b: 1846 in Campbell Co., TN d: Dec 27, 1859 in Whitley Co., KY

........ 2 Dorcas Ryan b: 1848

........ 2 Drew (Drury) Ryan b: Jun 1848 in Campbell Co., TN d: Aft. 1920 in Big Hill, Osage, OK?

............ +Elizabeth

........ *2nd Wife of Drew (Drury) Ryan:

............ +Laura Frances Wycoff b: Mar 1856 in Illinois d: Aft. 1920 in Big Hill, Osage, OK? : 1873 in Illinois or Iowa

........ 2 Senna Ann Ryan b: Feb 15, 1850 in Campbell Co., TN d: Jun 29, 1911 in McDonough Co., IL

............ +Peter Iler or Eyler b: Sep 21, 1843 in of,, Mcdonough Co., IL m: Sep 21, 1869 in McDonough Co., IL

........ 2 Calvin Ryan b: 1852 in Whitley Co., KY / Bowling Green, Warren, Ky? /Tn d: Aft. 1870

........ 2 Rachel Ryan b: 1853 in Whitley Co., KY

............ +Thomas Kinslow m: Jun 7, 1868 in MCDonough Co., IL

........ 2 Sarah (Sally) Ryan b: Mar 15, 1855 in Whitley Co., KY / Bowling Green, Warren, Ky d: Dec 19, 1930 in Benson, Omaha, Ne?

............ +James Franklin Davis b: 1852 in Mo d: May 14, 1937 in Omaha, Douglas, Ne? m: Jan 1, 1871 in Norwood, Wright, Mo Father: Ellison Mitchel Davis Mother: Martha Owen

........ *2nd Husband of Sarah (Sally) Ryan:

............ +Lee (unknown whether this is a first or last name ) b:Abt. 1850 in of Whitley Co., KY m: Abt. 1875 in Whitley Co., KY ?

........ 2 Ailcy (Ally) Ryan b: Jul 29, 1860 in Whitley Co., KY d: Aft. 1880 in MO ?

............ +James Smalley b: 1850 in TN d: Aft. 1880 in MO ? m: Abt. 1878 in Wright Co., MO

........ 2 A.L. Ryan b: Jul 29, 1861 in Whitley Co., KY

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this was given to us by a cousin...

Nathan Hicks (b. November 06, 1743, d. date unknown)

Nathan Hicks was born November 06, 1743, and died date unknown. He married

Na' Ye' He'/Na'He'Hi'

Children of Nathan Hicks and Na' Ye' He' are:

+Elizabeth Hicks, d. date unknown.

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this was given to us by a cousin...

Elizabeth Hicks (d. date unknown)

Elizabeth Hicks (daughter of Nathan Hicks and Na' Ye' He') died date unknown. She married Eliphus Holt.

Children of Elizabeth Hicks and Eliphus Holt are:

+Nathaniel Holt, b. Abt. 1742, d. date unknown.

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this was given to us by a cousin...

Nathaniel Holt (b. Abt. 1742, d. date unknown)

Nathaniel Holt (son of Eliphus Holt and Elizabeth Hicks) was born Abt. 1742, and died date unknown. He married Abbigail Clanton.

Children of Nathaniel Holt and Abbigail Clanton are:

+Drury Holt, d. date unknown

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Looking forward to hearing from again.

Peace and blessings.

Dolores Cobb Phifer




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