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From: "Ann Brown" <>
Subject: Re: [LAN] CRUMPSALL Institution 1901, Paupers graves
Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 14:46:37 -0000
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So if my great grandfathe died at 123 Crescent Road at 84 yrs old of heart
disease and old age
would he have died in teh workhouse or hospital section and where in your
opinion if he was C of E would he be likely to have been buried bearing in
mind he wasn't brought home to his estranges wife in Cheshire and is not in
the same grave as her in Witton cemetery.
I saw his death certificate and one of his younger sons registered the death
so the family knew where he had died.
I was told they all "clubbed together" to bury him at Manchester ( family
passed down this information)
Regards
Ann
----- Original Message -----
From: "lancaster.jim" <>
To: <>
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 12:06 AM
Subject: Re: [LAN] CRUMPSALL Institution 1901, Paupers graves


> Hi,
>
> We need to be careful here about the institutions we are discussing. Peter
> was talking about the County Lunatic Asylum which most of us know as
> Prestwich Hospital and has largely disappeared under a Tesco Supermarket.
> Sandra drew attention to the graves of some of the inmates of this
> Institution in the graveyard of Prestwich Parish Church (St. Mary the
> Virgin). Others have mentioned the local workhouses, Prestwich Workhouse
> and
> North Manchester Workhouse. These two were quite a distance from the
> Asylum.
> I understand that they were two separate institutions on adjacent sites
> and
> both have been absorbed into North Manchester General Hospital (formerly
> Crumpsall Hospital, etc.)
>
> The workhouses tended to have their own burial grounds and this probably
> applies to the Asylum as well. That does not mean that everyone who died
> in
> an Institution was buried in its graveyard. Clearly Sandra's information
> shows that some Anglicans were buried in an Anglican graveyard, and Mike's
> that some Catholics were buried in St. Joseph's RC Cemetery, Moston.
>
> I, for one, don't understand the official channels by which this occurred
> because not everyone who died in a workhouse and was buried in St.
> Joseph's
> was buried in a public grave, the cheapest form of burial; some were
> buried
> in private graves. I also suspect that many Catholics were buried in the
> workhouse burial ground. The workhouses were run by administrators whose
> duty was to provide the care at the minimum cost, so possibly in some
> cases
> the family may have borne any additional costs. As the administrators were
> 'civil servants' I think there will be a detailed manual somewhere of the
> various rules and regulations about this.
>
> Hope this helps
>
> Jim Lancaster (Bury, Lancs.)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Morris" <>
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> Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2004 11:11 PM
> Subject: [LAN] CRUMPSALL Institution 1901, Paupers graves
>
>
>
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