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Subject: Re: [LAN] Samuel SMITH liverpool 1870 approx
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 12:57:32 -0000


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Author: rxc1021
Surnames: Smith
Classification: biography

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http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/49621.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx

Message Board Post:

Hi Dawne.

I suppose, thought, if she was sent to Canada, she would not appear on the 1911 census? And if the family was also not on the 1911 census, could it mean that the parents had died before 1911?

I was curious about where Ditton was, and found this:

Ditton-Hough Green township is part of the borough of Widnes being in the Parish of Prescot in the district of Farnworth, in the hundred of West Derby comprising 15 parishes (including Prescot). The village of Ditton lies south of the village of Cronton on Highway B5178 running east-west through Lancashire/Cheshire. Before the County borders were changed in 1974 all the area SE of Cronton to the Mersey was in Lancashire but the border now passes to the west of Ditton.
From: http://www.aboutlancs.com/ditton.htm

And it looked like this Thomas H. Smith in the 1901 census might possibly match the father in the Katherine Rose record, given that Ditton is apparently close to Cronton:
Name:Thomas H Smith
Age:25
Estimated birth year:abt 1876
Relation:Son
Spouse's name:Mary
Father's Name:Thomas
Mother's Name:Martha
Gender:Male
Where born:Crouton, Lancashire, England
Civil parish:Cronton
Ecclesiastical parish:Farnworth St Luke
Town:Cronton
County/Island:Lancashire
Country:England
Registration district:Prescot
Sub-registration district:Widnes
Household Members:NameAge
Thomas Smith 53
Martha Smith 60
Thomas H Smith 25
Mary Smith 28

This seems to be Thomas Herbert Smith who married Mary Harrison in Prescot in 1900.
Marriages Sep 1900 (>99%)
Harrison MaryPrescot 8b1204
Smith Thomas Herbert Prescot 8b1204

There is a census record for a Mary Harrison b. Kirkby in 1873 (the 1901 record above lists her birthplace as Kerby), and she appears in 1881 and 1891 but not after that.

There are two death records for Thomas Smith's in Prescot who died very young -
Deaths Mar 1908
Smith Thomas 34 Prescot 8b569
Deaths Jun 1910
SMITH Thomas 33 Prescot 8b441
Also there is a Mary Smith who died young who would have been born c 1871:
Deaths Mar 1912
Smith Mary E 31 Prescot 8b933

I have no idea if these are the right Thomas or Mary Smiths to match the records, however. Really it is challenging with Smith as a surname :) And of course there is no "Samuel" in Thomas' name, so this is likely one more wild goose chase.

I know you have searched widely. I wondered, have you contacted Perry Snow about his site? He seems to have a substantial database of information about British Home Children who were sent to Canada.

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~britishhomechildren/

Kind regards,
Rosemary

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