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From: "Sharon Umiker " <>
Subject: Setting up an E-mail account for patrons
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2004 18:31:01 -0400 (EDT)

In our stake, the computers in all our FHCs are set-up with an "E-mail Sign-ups" folder under "Favorites". There are links for signing up with Yahoo or Excite. We didn't use hotmail because those accounts close if they aren't used frequently. Anyhow, a patron can quickly and easily be helped to set-up an e-mail account to use for registering to view the Ordinance Index...or to use GenForm and Rootsweb Messageboards. We also offer to keep their user name and password in a secure file if they are afraid they will forget them. My two cents. Sharon Buffalo New York Stake --- On Sat 07/10, < > wrote: From: [mailto: ] To: Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2004 16:05:23 -0600 Subject: LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-D Digest V04 #247 > --- Begin Attached Message--- LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-D DigestVolume 04 : Issue 247 Today's Topics: #1 Re: [LDS-WC-L] Internet Ordinance ["Tina Peddie" <] #2 RE: [LDS-WC-L] Temple Ready on the ["Jill N. Crandell" <] #3 Re: [LDS-WC-L] Re: You MUST not le [Donna <>] #4 Re: [LDS-WC-L] Letting others use [Donna <>] #5 The question was asked of me... [] #6 a PS to my submiited question [] #7 Re: [LDS-WC-L] The question was as ["Tina Peddie" <] #8 Re: [LDS-WC-L] The question was as [] #9 Re: [LDS-WC-L] a PS to my submiite ["Gunilla Manell" <] Administrivia: This mailing list is not sponsored by the LDS Church. To unsubscribe from LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT-D, send a message to that contains in the ! body of the message the command unsubscribe and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. ______________________________ > --- End Attached Message--- > --- Begin Attached Message--- Hi Dawn, If I was working at the FHC and this question came up, from a non-member, I'd be as quick as lightening to use my own Numbers to get him on to see what temple work had been done for his ancestors, and what work was needed! That IS the whole point of the work we do ---- not to keep people "out" :) What would others do in this situation? *Tina/CA* ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dawn Bushman" <> To: <> Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2004 11:21 AM Subject: [LDS-WC-L] Internet Ordinance Index > Hi There, > > While I agree with others that the Ordinance Index should be restricted to > the Church membership, I do have a question for you. > > There are several non-members who use the Family History Centers (and > Library). Some choose to have the Ordinances done for their ancestors, > even though they are not a member of our faith. > ! > Now, if you've seen the IIGI without being signed on, you'll see that the > ancestor's name and some basic information is on the IIGI, however what > specific ordinances have been done is not. By this I mean, for some > ancestors all of their work may be done, however I have come across some > from my own family where only a sealing to a parent was done, as the names > were retrieved by extraction. > > My question is: when a non-member patron wishes to submit names for Temple > work, at what point does someone with the access check to make sure that > the ordinances really are not being duplicated? > > I'm interested in hearing you're input on this. > > Thanks, > > Dawn > > PS: I have instructions on my web site that go through the registration > process for the Internet Ordinance Index. Here's a link: > http://members.cox.net/dawnbushman1/ascending.html > > >; ==== LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT Mailing List =! === > > > ______________________________ > --- End Attached Message--- > --- Begin Attached Message--- > If this happens. That means you can prepare a disk to take or > send to the Temple at home???? I heard SPECULATION a few years ago that one concept goes so far as to clear the names online with the ability to print our cards/paperwork at home. There would be no need to prepare a disk to take or send to the temple. This was a concept being discussed, but I have no idea if that is in fact what is being developed. We are all going to have to be extremely patient as we wait for the newest developments to appear. Those of us on the outside of the actual development don't know, those on the inside can't talk yet. Time will tell. Jill Crandell ______________________________ > --- End Attached Message--- > --- Begin Attached Message--- Another comment re the use of IIGI -- etc etc etc. When the church FIRST launched familysearch.org, the IIGI was available to ALL people. There was such an outcry by non members that they church took the ordinance dates off line and just left the bare information. Now, if there had NOT BEEN an outcry by the non members at large, we would not be having this discussion about permission and who is allowed, would we. The point is, let us work together, in harmony and love, to help others receive a testimony of this great work of Redeeming the Dead, follow the counsel of our church leaders and listen to the spirit. Have a great Saturday and a great Sabbath, Donna in Abbotsford ----- Original Message ----- From: <> To: <> Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2004 9:38 AM Subject: Re: [LDS-WC-L] Re: You MUST not let others use the system > In a message dated ! 07/10/04 11:09:36 AM Central Standard Time, > writes: > The purpose of having a username and password is to restrict access to > members of the Church. Anyone who wants access needs to go through the five > minutes to call their ward clerk. Everyone else can use the non-member > version. It may sound harsh to some of you, but I don't have any problem > with asking members to be responsible to make the effort necessary to do > this work properly. It's the Lord's work, and He makes the rules. The only > question is if we are going to be obedient. > I just want everyone to know that I very strongly AGREE with everything she > said. I too am on the APG list and I wrote the list administrator about the > unprofessional behavior of some of the people on the list during the discussion. > The list admin. called a halt to the *church bashing* that was going on. But > it just goes to show what can h! appen when information gets in the hands of > those people -- nonme mbers or members -- that don't understand the Plan of > Salvation and the reason why we build temples. > > So, please... go by the rules. They are there for a reason. Also when we > receive these rules, we need to remember they are actually sent from a much > *higher* authority. Are we going to question the reason for a rule in the > hereafter? I hope not! > > And I too remember the message, just don't know where I put my copy. > It is probably in the file cabinet at the FHC. > > Annette > listowner > > > ==== LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT Mailing List ==== > > ______________________________ > --- End Attached Message--- > --- Begin Attached Message--- Thank you Carrie, No one has been rude and I did not mean to stir up contention but rather share what I believed to be correct, in my eyes. The point is, we want to encourage ward members to do their family history and if the member takes the initiative to get their own membership record number (which is now on current temple recommends). and remember their confirmation date, there is no problem. BUT until then, let us use the spirit of discernment and not the letter of the law in helping others in this great work. Me in Abbotsford (Donna) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carrie Taylor" <> To: <> Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2004 7:44 AM Subject: RE: [LDS-WC-L] Letting others use your password for Internet IGI > Dear Donna, > You will probably be getting many replies on this one. I hope no one is > rude, but yes, this was one of the specific directives ! given when the access > was first given to the Ordinance Index online. I don't know where to find > the paperwork on this unfortunately. Perhaps someone on the list kept it. > This is intended only for the member's use. If they are a member they can > easily get the information needed from the ward clerk. I hope you have just > been typing the password in for them and not giving yours out to others. I > see nothing wrong with this as long as the password is kept confidential and > used only for the help of other members. I have done that to let people > know what is available and then they have gotten their own number and > password. Carrie Taylor > > -----Original Message----- > From: Donna [mailto:] > Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2004 2:27 AM > To: > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC-L] Temple Ready on the Internet > > > When at Familysearch.org click on 'sign on' w! hich is to the right of the > > Home, Search, Share, Library tabs. This will bring you into the screen > > where you can sign into Temple Ready. [TempleReady] > > This is not TempleReady! Using your user name and password allows a member > access to temple ordinance dates in the Ordinance Index [not TempleReady] > The ordinance index is found in the IIGI (Internet International > Genealogical Index > > ********** > You MUST not let others use the system > under your name and password. > If they haven't registered then they >"shouldn't be allowed to use the > system". This is a directive handed down > from the Presidency. > > I TOTALLY disagree!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I would like to see a copy of that > directive! This is news to me, not allowing others to use our user name and > password to view ordinance index online??!! > > I have let others use my user name and password many times without > hesitation and I will CONTINUE to do so if it encourages members to check > the ordinanc! e index online. > > Why would we put STUMBLING BLOCKS for church members when we can help member > experience the IIGI, by using the Ordinance Index online, with our user > name and password. The member will feel the spirit of the work and have > success. > > The member should then be encouraged to contact membership clerk for their > Membership Record Number and Confirmation Date. I have helped quite a few > members register once they experienced the IIGI. Why make it more difficult > for the members????? > > Personally, I do not see a problem with someone using my user name and > password, if it encourages members to get started checking ordinance work > online, all the better! > > There is no security loss in others using our password.. Comments > anyone!!!?? Not trying to be nigglypiggily [sp] but there is a Spirit of > the Law and there is the Letter of the Law. > > Donna Brock Bohnet > Stake F! amily History Consultant > Abbotsford B.C. Stake (Canada) > > i t is currently 14C outside in Abbotsford, B.C. Canada at 11:26 p.m. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Barbara Jones" <> > To: <> > Sent: Friday, July 09, 2004 7:52 PM > Subject: Re: [LDS-WC-L] Temple Ready on the Internet > > > > Hi Susan, > > > > When at Familysearch.org click on 'sign on' which is to the right of the > > Home, Search, Share, Library tabs. This will bring you into the screen > > where you can sign into Temple Ready. If you haven't done this before you > > will need your membership number and your confirmation date to be able to > > register. Once you have done all this you will be able to access the IGI > > which will give you actual dates when the Temple work was done. One thing > > that MUST be emphasised is this. You MUST not let others use the system > > under your name and password. If they haven't registered then they<! br>> > shouldn't be allowed to use the system. This is a directive handed down > > from the Presidency. Members have been directed to do their own research. > > If for example the person concerned is unable to use a computer for > whatever > > reason, then there is nothing stopping you from helping them out, but they > > MUST be registered under their own membership number and confirmation > date. > > > > I hope this information is what you are looking for. If it is not and you > > have been led to believe that TR on the Internet is available to actually > > finalise submissions then I believe that this is actually being looked at > by > > the Presidency, but is only in its infancy, (if any one else has further > > information on this then please share it with us all). We still have to > > check the IIGI and then use the TR disks. > > > > Regards > > Barbara on a beautiful sunny (18 C) winter day in Mildur! a Victoria > Australia > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Susan Andersen" <> > > To: <> > > Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2004 3:58 AM > > Subject: [LDS-WC-L] Temple Ready on the Internet > > > > > > > I had a member tell me that Temple Ready is now available on the > Internet, > > using the member number and conf. date. I have not personally heard of > it, > > has anyone on the list? If so, where is it? I looked in familysearch.org > > and wasn't able to find anything. > > > > > > > > > ==== LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT Mailing List ==== > > > This mailing list is for LDS Ward or Stake Genealogy Consultants ONLY. > > > This mailing list is privately sponsored by Annette Carpenter Womack. > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT Mailing List ==== > > This list is NOT sponsored by the LDS Church. It is privately sponsored > by Annette Womack, who is a Ward Consultant. > > > ><! br>> > ==== LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT Mailing List ==== > > ______________________________ > --- End Attached Message--- > --- Begin Attached Message--- How do members of the church who do not have computers therefore have no email addresses register at Family History Centers to access the Ordinance Index. When registering the "form" asks for an email address, and it is required as there is an " * " Thanks, Joan in Idaho ______________________________ > --- End Attached Message--- > --- Begin Attached Message--- We have had members TRY to register to get into the OI at the FHC, and are absoultely not able to because they have NO EMAIL ADDRESS. Joan again....In Idaho ______________________________ > --- End Attached Message--- > --- Begin Attached Message--- Good question! Perhaps the FHC Director has a 'general' email address that is or can be used just for that purpose... being "monitored", as mentioned, so that it is not actually given out, but rather, used for that very purpose only at the FHC by the Director or other FHC staff when helping members who do not have computers, or non-members who sincerely want to check the OI. Tina/CA ----- Original Message ----- From: <> To: <> Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2004 2:12 PM Subject: [LDS-WC-L] The question was asked of me... > How do members of the church who do not have computers therefore have no > email addresses register at Family History Centers to access the Ordinance Index. > When registering the "form" asks for an email address, and it is required as > there is an " * " > Thanks, > Joan in Idaho > > > ==== LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT Mailing List ====<b! r>> The listowner is: Annette Carpenter Womack <> > > ______________________________ > --- End Attached Message--- > --- Begin Attached Message--- On the FHC computer, you can get a free email address through Yahoo! Then you can get ______________________________ > --- End Attached Message--- > --- Begin Attached Message--- They could set up an e-mail account with Hot Mail or Yahoo. I would think that should work. /Gunilla ----- Original Message ----- From: <> To: <> Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2004 3:20 PM Subject: [LDS-WC-L] a PS to my submiited question > We have had members TRY to register to get into the OI at the FHC, and are > absoultely not able to because they have NO EMAIL ADDRESS. > Joan again....In Idaho > > > ==== LDS-WARD-CONSULTANT Mailing List ==== > > > --- End Attached Message--- _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web!

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