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From: "David Zincavage" <>
Subject: Re: [LITHUANIA-L] Starinkaite surname
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 06:41:57 -0700
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The usual estimate is that 80% of the Pre-Partitions nobility were
subsequently declassed by the policies of the occupying powers. It should
be noted that a significant percentage of the Polish-Lithuanian knightly
estate were quite poor. Many lived in small villages, like the Dobrzynskis
in Pan Tadeusz, where everyone was related and had the same last name. Some
worked as servants for the wealthy nobility, like Gerwazy Protazy in Pan
Tadeusz. Some were even completely without land. By the 18th century, it
was common for families to have forgotten their coat of arms. And by the
emigration era, all this sort of thing was often ancient forgotten history.

----- Original Message -----
From: "shamrock612" <>
To: <>
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 5:34 AM
Subject: Re: [LITHUANIA-L] Starinkaite surname


> Dear David,..
>
> Thank you once again .. for all your wonderful information ... and
> input.. And thank you for the site information on the coat of arms.. I
> really liked that.. I just wish the family members that are still here
would
> talk to me about this... I guess it is some huge family secret.. no ones
> talkin... Thanks again..
>
> Bye for now.. Beth (Knappenberger) Rachas :)
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Zincavage" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 10:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [LITHUANIA-L] Starinkaite surname
>
>
> > -aite is the unmarried female suffix. Vanagas et. al. (1989) found 0
> > Starinkas, but they did find 16 Starinskas. This would be a
> lithuanianized
> > spelling of the Polish locational surname Starynski. The toponymic root
> > would be the Polish _stary_ "old."
> >
> >
> > Kasprzycki [XI:155-157]:
> >
> > STARZYNSKI or STARYNSKI
> > Arms Doliwa, recorded circa 1550; nobility confirmations: 1782, 1783,
> 1787,
> > 1825; from Podolia &c.
> > --Gol/uchowski, Borkowski.
> >
> > STARZYNSKI or STARYNSKI
> > Arms Doliwa, recorded corca 1490; a member of which family confirmed
> > nobility in 1799; from Starynki in the district of Minsk. A
christianized
> > Tartar family.
> > --Dziadulewicz.
> >
> > STARZYNSKI or STARYNSKI
> > Arms unknown, recorded circa 1525; a princely Tartar family, a branch of
> > Juszenski.
> > --Dziadulewicz
> >
> > You can see the Doliwa arms at:
> >
> > http://www.polonium.de/docs/ciekawostki/herby/win/index.html
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "shamrock612" <>
> > To: <>
> > Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 7:06 PM
> > Subject: [LITHUANIA-L] Starinkaite surname
> >
> >
> > > Hello list,...
> > >
> > > Well I have just found out what the right spelling of My husbands
> > Grandmother's maiden name was.. From a very nice Lady that did a little
> > research for me...(Thank you very much Lynn).. She found that the
> spelling
> > of the Starinski last name was STARINKAITE ... What does the last
name
> > mean.. Where might it be from .. It is a need to know bases .. and I
> NEED
> > TO KNOW.. Hahahahah.. Thank you so very much ..
> > >
> > > Bye For Now .. Beth ( Knappenberger) Rachas :)
> > >
> > >
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