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From: vmcg <>
Subject: Re: [LITHUANIA-L] EU is providing Lithuanian ethnocide
Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 14:54:59 +0200
June 6th, 2003
Hello !
<grin> I sure don't think that this is the place to discuss the pros and cons
of Lithuania's upcoming full membership in the EU ... it's a genealology list,
after all !
However, as Al Jolson said in 1927, at the end of the first talking picture,
"You ain't seen nothin' yet !" <grin, then very, very sad smile>
You mention only some of the changes that UE membership has forced on
Lithuania
(including the closure of the Chernobyl-type nuclear power station) - there
will be over 70,000 of them (!), since Lithuania is required to integrate
(in a
given period of time) the complete range of EU regulations into its legal,
commercial and civic codes. Today, over 80% of the laws coming into effect in
France are not laws passed by the French Parliament, but the simple
implementation and transpostion into the French corpus of UE origin directives
and laws. Wait until you discover the full ramifications of Value-Added Tax
(VAT) !
Of course the EU leaders want the Eastern European countries to join ! You
couldn't be more wrong on that !
There are two major reasons:
A) These new countries represent markets to be won by established European
firms. (The fact that countries such as Lithuania, Lativa, Estonia and Poland
will no longer have any manufacturing base whatsoever in a few years seems to
have escaped those countries' leaders.)
and
B) European demographics require new blood. Lithuanian (and yes, Polish,
Latvian, whatever) youth will come to the Western part of Europe to work and
pay for retirement benefits ... which will benefit the "pay as you go"
retirement schemes currently in force in Western European countries ... and
not
retirees in Lithuania. Of course, this means that Lithuania et al will have
huge numbers of unemployed and unemployable seniors - exactly what happened in
former East Germany .... (You might say that free movement of Polish and
Lithuanian citizens to Western Europe will be limited for seven years ... tell
that to the new Polish community here in Paris, which went from almost zero to
over 200,000 in five years or so ... on my street of apartment buildings, the
au-pairs are Polish, Lithuanian, and Latvian, in that order ...).
One good thing is that - theoretically - Western Europeans can't just move in
and purchase all of Lithuania's or Poland's real estate. However, if
Lithuanian
property laws are similar to the ones in the Czech republic, all a Western
European would have to do is go into partnership with a Lithuanian and found a
Lithuanian company ... (Tip: buy land, houses, apartments, right now ! In two
years it will be too late ...try to figure out where the new EU subsidised
motorways will be built, too ...).
I suppose I could go on for pages and pages ... to close: what escapes me is
why the leaders of these "new EU" countries didn't opt for some kind of new EU
associative status and not full EU membership. I guess they just didn't know
what they were getting into.
Best,
Gregory
<>
>>> Hello, Gregory,
>>>Lithuania's leaders have declared, that Lithuania wants
>>>to become EU member about 5 years ago. EU leaders have
>>>answered then, that if Lithuania wants to become EU
>>>member, she must to accept all EU directives regarding
>>>Lithuania. There was a lot of such directives. EU demanded
>>>from Lithuania to rise the taxes, to abolish privileges for
>>>investors, to close sloughterhouses, to eliminate
>>>competition in public utilities sector, to close atomic
>>>electric power station, to abolish duties for goods from EU,
>>>etc. Because of these directives the prices of agricultural
>>>land had decreased 10 times, the prices of immovable
>>>property had decreased twice in Lithuania. I think EU
>>>leaders really don't wanted to let new members into
>>>EU. They expected that people of states candidates will
>>>vote against membership of their countries in EU.
>>>Many EU directives have took power in Lithuania automatically,
>>>when Lithunia's citizens have voted in referendum for Lithuania
>>>as EU member.
>>>Remember, that president of France Zhak Shirak have sayd,
>>>when countries of Central and Eastern Europe supported USA
>>>in war against Iraq. He have sayd, that these countries don't
>>>have right to have their own opinion, especially if they
>>>want to become EU members.
>>
>>
>-------------
>>>Since Lithuania is not yet a member of the European Union,
>>>I find it hard to believe that the EU has "restricted"
>>>anything whatsoever in Lithuania. Perhaps the Treaty of
>>> Association that Lithuania has negotiated with the EU
>>> contains clauses covering patronymics and so forth, but
>>>Lithuania a) will only be a member of the Union in
>>>May, 2004 and b) has only herself to blame if in
>>> her eagerness to join the supposed gravy train she
>>>negotiated a treaty which denatures her family naming
>>>schemes. (The EU has a lot of apparently strange
>>> directives and rules, but as far as I know none governing
>>>patronymics in
any of the member states.)
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