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From: "Don & Melissa Alexander" <>
Subject: CECIL, OXENBRIDGE, CALVERT, SHIRCLIFFE, LEE
Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 20:48:31 -0700
Thanks to this information from Les we know that Sir Edward was also a
General-and we know from Colonial Census data he was in Virginia Colony in
1607, 1611, 1619 (as General) and 1624. A Robert was in VA in 1607, and
Edward in 1611, a Thomas in 1607, and a William in 1612.There is no doubt,
because of the investment of Sir Thomas, Earl of Exeter, and his son Edward,
in the 2nd Virginia Company, that this is the Cecil family. Each of them
may have even fathered children out of wedlock in VA (based on their known
reputations)-but these children probably did not carry their surname. We
also know that Barbados was often a way station on the way from England to
VA and MD colonies. We still do not have the definitive tie of the
immigrant Cecil's and Cissell's to MD to this family. I have not gotten any
significant information from the Oxenbridge family (a different Oxenbridge
was an investor in the 2nd VA company) to verify that the Thomas Cecil who
married Susan Oxenbridge is the Thomas Cecil, son of above Thomas, who is
documented to have married Ann Lee, daughter of a Mayor of London.
We know that the John Baptist Cissell family that immigrated to the Maryland
Colony in 1658 and he had the trade of Gunsmith has money to buy
significant land holdings and that he owned the trade ship the "Martha
Constant." We know his first wife was Mary Calvert, granddaughter of :
Leonard, (son of John and Margerie Crossland Calvert). This Leonard Calvert,
father of George, was born about 1550 (Estimated). He was a country
gentleman, apparently in easy circumstances, who owned land and raised
cattle. He married about 1575 (estimated) Grace (or Alicia) Crossland,
daughter of Thomas and Joanna (Hawksworth) Crossland of Crossland Hill,
Yorkshire. (See Foster's Visitations of Yorkshire) and descended from Roger
de Crossland, of the time of Henry III. More About Leonard Calvert: Fact 7:
Member of Flemish family long settled in Yorkshire, England. We know that
his 2nd wife in Maryland was Mary Shircliffe, born in Yorkshire, daughter of
John Shircliffe and Ann Goldsborough.
We know that this John had a brother named William who immigrated with him.
We also have reason to believe that they had a brother named Rev. Henry
Cecil. We know that John Baptist Cissell was Catholic and named his sons,
we believe in this order: John, William, Thomas, Richard and Robert. We
know his brother William had a son named William. We know that the
descendents of the first Lord Burghley, William Cecil, included both
Catholics and Anglicans.
We know that a Thomas Cecil married Susan Oxenbridge, daughter of Thomas, c
1634 in London.
Does any one have anything to add? Or dispute?
Melissa Thompson Alexander
Edmonds, WA, USA
Sent:Saturday, July 11, 1998 1:15 PM
Subject:Sir Edward CECIL Research
Melissa: I have searched "The Records of the Virginia Company of London",
Susan Myra Kingsbury, A.M., Ph.D., published by the Library of Congress,
Washington, in 1933, 4 volumes, for your Sir Edward CECIL. Found quite a
references. On pg 81, vol III, there is a list of "Adventurers to Virginia,
with the several amamounts of their holdings", "Sir Edward Cecill 25"
He is also listed several other places as a General Cecill). Ath the
quarter court meeting on 9 Jun 1619 he (written General Cecill and Generall
Caesill) apparently consulted with Sir Horation VEERE (VERE) and Sir Thomas
GATES about some engineering issues in Virginia.
I certainly believe that Sir Edward CECIL and the references General CECILL
are the same person.
I have found no information, so far, that indicates that he actually made a
voyage to Virginia, however he certainly could have. I will continue to
Cheers, Les Mellott
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