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From: "Mary Brockmeyer" <>
Subject: Re: Re GRO records et al
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 11:58:20 -0700


Thank for the great notes. It's very disheartening to finally get good at
gen research here in the States, and start work in Britain and realize you
have no skills at all.

I have to say - being a young country is helpful in some ways! My research
in Nebraska is simple because no one lived there much before 1869. Maine
however is harder, because they started settling Maine in the early 1700's
and no records were kept until mid 1800's. But still the work here has
spoiled me. The church was never in charge in the States, and with the
exception of a few county changes, we don't have a question as to where
records are kept.

So lessons like yours are important and helpful and I printed yours and am
taking to my dinky FHC this afternoon to see what they have.

Thanks again
----- Original Message -----
From: Sally Thompson <>
To: <>
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 1999 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: Re GRO records et al

> Sylvia <> wrote:
> >> Hi: For the benefit of all the newbies (like me???!!!) could someone
> break down all these terms, i.e. GRO etc., in the simplest possible
> terms. I'm in the USA and have to go thru my local LDS history center
> and many of them really don't have a clue about all these English
> records (like birth, marriage, death etc) and how they work. If I'm
> looking for, say, Joe Bloggs, what's my first, second, third etc., step
> in locating birth/marriage/death records for him? I don't know about
> anyone else, but I don't have a clue where to start, what to order,
> etc., etc. Very many thanks to whoever has the patience to OVERsimplify
> this for me. Sylvia PS - I'm not looking for a Joe Bloggs by the way,
> but the name will do!!! <<
> Sylvia:
> I'm taking you at your word, and giving you the early learning version,
> so will experienced researchers please hit the delete button and/or go
> and make a cup of coffee <g>
> First, I suggest you look at the Genuki site <>;
> which will give you lots of helpful info and links.
> For England and Wales, BDM records are indexed in quarters of the year
> alphabetically, and most LDS centres have them on fiche or film. (They
> often call them the St Catherine's indexes, but the correct name is the
> GRO). So, if you want to find the birth of "Joe Bloggs" you go to a
> likely year and look under the Bloggs entries for each quarter.
> Remember that this is the date of registration, not the date of birth,
> so if Joe was born in December, say, he may well be registered in the
> March quarter for the following year. Speaking with the weary voice of
> experience <bg>, I suggest you write down all Bloggs entries just in
> case. Otherwise when you start looking for his brothers and sisters,
> you'll have to go back and do it all over again...... He may also be
> known as Joe but registered as Henry Joseph, or whatever. When you have
> found your very own Joe Bloggs (and this may take quite some time), note
> down the details in the index, which will be something like:
> BLOGGS, Joe, St Crispin in the Mud, Vol xx, Page xx. I find it helpful
> to have a ready prepared form to write the details in - don't forget to
> include the quarter and the year.
> Then look up the details of the relevant registration district on
> Genuki. The index does not contain any more details than the above
> until you get to 1911, when you get the mother's maiden name, so you
> then have to write to the appropriate superintendent registrar with 6.50
> GBP and sit back and wait for your certificate. You will need to give
> the details from the index but not the Vol and page number. These are
> only needed if you order direct from FRC in London or ONS in Southport
> (not really recommended if you can help it because it's very slow, and
> dearer). Follow the same procedure for a death certificate. For a
> marriage cert, unfortunately this will not work unless you know the name
> of the actual church. I suggest that you employ a London researcher to
> get marriage certs for you - or, if you must, order direct from the ONS
> online - but be prepared to wait a very long time:
> or email: <>
> Here ends lesson one. If you need further info, please let me know.
> Sally in Sussex, UK
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