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From: "John Henley" <>
Subject: [Lon] Re: Thanks re Mary Magdalene
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 08:32:57 -0000
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I appreciate the the oral tradtion in the family: and indeed St.Mary
Magdalene is the dedication of the parish church in Bermondsey [as is it is
of that in Woolwich, and there are several more in the Greater London area
South of the river, including Peckham].
What concerns me is your original question relating to a marriage
> I have a marriage cert for my grandfather recorded at the Church in the
> Parish of St.Mary Magdalene, Southwark, in the county of London.
> Does this mean the church is called St.Mary Magdalene? Cannot find it in
> reference to Southwark. 
The headers across the top of the certificate should be quite clear. If it
had been Bermondsey, then I would expect Bermondsey, not Southwark at the
top of the certificate. Bermondsey, like Southwark, becam a Metropolitan
Borough in the new County of London in 1900, remaining separate Boroughs
until the 1960s. Therefore, I am reasonable certain that the one to which
the certificate refers is that on Congreve Street, Walworth, built 1842,
appears to have survived until at least the 1960s, but I cannot find a
reference to it now.
Congreve Street is shown with its church on my 1948 A-Z, off Alfreton Street
off the Old Kent Road near Bricklayers Arms Station. Congreve Street is on
the south side of the Old Kent Road. North of the Old Kent Road you are in
what was the M.B. of Bermondsey, which would fit in with the family
tradition. Congreve Street still appears in the modern A-Z [ see today
http://www.streetmap.co.uk/ or http://uk.multimap.com/map/places ] but iss
now much longer, reaching ast Street, so I am reasonably certain there has
been extensive re-development.
The addresses of the bride and groom would help confirm the correct church,
and what would confirm it is the name and designation of the officiating
minister - look him up in a post 1903 Crockfords C;lerical Directory, and
see where he was in 1903.
I have copied this to Liz, as she has a good knowledge of S.E.London, and
may be able to help further.
----- Original Message -----
From: Charles & Sue Lawrence <>Subject: Re: [Lon]
Re: Thanks re Mary Magdalene
> Hi John sorry for the slow reply, just snowed under, metaphorically
> speaking, as the sun is shining and summer may just be coming.
> Bermondsey was the church as I remember my mother speaking of Bermondsey
> being the place where most of the family came from.
> Thank you for you input.> Susan> Rotorua New Zealand