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From: "Carol Gill" <>
Subject: Re: [Lon] Dialect Question and MUDD family
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 19:27:52 +0100
I believe a Yorkshire dialect might produce a Mood with the oo short like in
'hood'. Have you thought of the possibility of HOOD? Could have been
misheard. I'm afraid I don't know the Suffolk dialect, but I'm sure
someone on the list will.
Rochester, Kent, England, UK
From: Charles Mudd Jr. <>
Date: 24 July 2001 02:45
Subject: [Lon] Dialect Question and MUDD family
>I have long searched for the ancestry of Thomas MUDD born circa 1646/7
>and died in Maryland 1696/7. We know he was born at that time due to
>his deposition that he was age 34 years or thereabouts in 1681.
>I have been searching various records. We know that the likely places
>for his ancestry would be in London, Suffolk or Yorkshire. Part of this
>is based upon frequency of the Mudd name at that time (and since).
>In searching records, I came across a Strangeways MUDD, merchant in
>London. I also found a Thomas MUDD merchant in London. Thomas is
>listed for one year, 1677, the year my Thomas MUDD is alleged to have
>arrived in Maryland (so far I have records placing him there in 1678).
>Between 1646/7 and 1677/7, we have only scattered bits of information.
>I digress. In searching for Strangeways MUDD, I also came across a
>Strangeways MOULD (gendex would also be MOLDE, MOLD) as merchant in
>London at the same time. Because Strangeways as a given name is just so
>rare (and no Strangeways MUDDs listed in familysearch.com), I began to
>wonder about pronunciation. (I might add, I found a Thomas and John
>MOULD in Virginia-London records, but familysearch lists more than 400
>Thomas MOULD or variants).
>Some have suggested that MUDD may have originally been MOODY - I have
>found variants of MUDIE or MUDDE. With this new found Strangeways
>MOULD, I can see how the pronunciation of "MUDD" could be heard as
>"MOLDE", if the L is lazy.
>Might those of you with experience in, whether through study or
>exposure, English dialect, I pose two questions:
>(1) Would a particular region (London, Suffolk, Yorkshire) be more
>likely to pronounce MUDD in the phonetic cousin MOULD than MOOD?
>(2) Does anyone know one who studies or has part of their studies focus
>on old English dialect?
>Thank you for your patience and reading this message.