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From: "Angela Incigneri" <>
Subject: Re: [Lon] Re: LONDON-D Digest V01 #1385
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 13:56:37 +1100
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Hi Michael
Are you sure you meant this for me?
I have never offered a lookUP on the 1891 census. This would be beyond
reason. But I am happy to keep a lookOUT for any name.
I realise that Liz had already posted with regards to this but my message
was composed offline and sitting in my outbox and went out before I received
Liz's message. Sadly it sends out messages before it downloads them leading
to this sort of mistake.
I am well familiar with the 'Newbie' information on Genuki as I have been
researching family history for around ten years.
I still believe that it would be sad if only those who were well off could
enjoy this hobby and after spending many years studying theology I have to
advise you that "God helps those who help themselves' is not theologically
correct. I think you will find that the instruction to help others less
fortunate is part of every faith.
If I sounded 'snappy' I am sorry. I did not intend to snap but merely to
express sorrow.
Best wishes
Angela
Melbourne, Australia
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Bruff" <>
To: "Angela Incigneri" <>
Sent: 7 November 2001 10:15
Subject: Re: [Lon] Re: LONDON-D Digest V01 #1385


> Angela wrote:
>
> >I must say I really don't know why anyone should resent being asked to
keep
> >a lookout for a name in the 1891 census. How much work would it be? And
you
> >don't have to do it if you don't want to. It would be sad if only those
who
> >could afford to buy everything could enjoy this hobby. I'd be happy
> >to keep a lookout for you, Brett, if only my copy would arrive.
>
>
> Liz, our deputy listowner, has already posted regarding this. A
> 'look-up' is simply *impossible* on the 1891 census, whatever form it
> be in. It is *not* surname indexed (although some local FHS's, such
> as Devon and Cornwall, are making valiant efforts to make it so, more
> power to their elbow). It *is* largely street-indexed--at least the
> areas I've had occasion to check at the FHS here in London have been.
>
> However, as far as I understand it (which may be incorrectly), the
> 1891 CD-Roms/DVDs are simply scans of the originals, *not* an index
> like the 1881, which can be searched nationwide ad infinitum. I am
> not sure how many entries the 1891 London census contains, but would
> estimate close to a million households, depending on where London's
> limits are drawn (does it include Tottenham,anyone?). One can of
> course keep a look-out for a surname
>
> Why do people snap? Because, despite umpteen patient postings to this
> and every other list I subscribe to informing newcomers that the only
> fully searchable England and Wales census is the 1881, requests for
> look-ups from the '41, '51, '61, '71 and '91 keep flooding in. This,
> regrettably, suggests that many newcomers to our hobby cannot be
> bothered to acquaint themselves with its very basics. The 'can I have
> the info yesterday?' tone of some requests doesn't help too much,
> either.
>
> So, I'll post, yet again, http://www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html, a
> mass of information for the newcomer in a very short space, and
> recommend 'The Family Tree Detective' by Colin Rogers, available for
> less than a tenner from the Society of Genealogists' online bookshop
> at http://www.sog.org.uk.
>
> God, I am reliably informed, helps those who help themselves.
>
> Mick
>
> Tottenham
> Middlesex
> --
>
>

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