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From: "Tony Mitchell" <>
Subject: Re: [Lon] A puzzling death certificate
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 22:41:03 -0000
There is an important piece of information on the death certificate that you
have not given in your query. In column 7 of the death certificate, what is
shown as the 'description' of the informant Hannah TACKLEY?
I suspect it says simply 'Present at the death', but possibly 'In
'Present at the death' with no relationship stated suggests that Ann GAME
and Hannah TACKLEY were not related.
'In attendance' should only be used where the informant is a relative, and
the relationship should be stated.
There were still TACKLEYs living in Weirs (or Wears) Passage (No. 5) on the
1881 census, but no Hannah. I suspect Hannah TACKLEY died before the 1881
census, and that she was an elderly neighbour of Ann Mary GAME who didn't
know the details of Ann's husband who had died 3 years earlier.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Mcqueen" <>
Sent: 04 December 2001 21:56
Subject: [Lon] A puzzling death certificate
> My g-grandfather William GAME's marriage certificate of 25 Dec 1856 gives
his father as William GAME, lapidary, and his address as Weir's Passage, St
> I therefore think it is safe to assume that the William GAME, age 58, and
Ann M GAME, age 59, in the 1861 census at Weirs Passage North Side, St
Pancras were my g-g- grandparents, although William's occupation is here
given as groom.
> A death certificate shows that William GAME, chaff cutter, age 66, died at
3 Weir Passage on 12 June 1869. The informant was Ann GAME of the same
> Now comes the mystery. Another death certificate shows that Ann Mary
GAME, age 70, died at 3a Weirs Passage on 16 June 1872. However she is
described as the widow of James GAME, porter. When I first saw this I
wondered whether, after being widowed she had married a brother-in-law or
some other relative of her late husband, but I have checked and there is no
record of such a marriage.
> Can it be sheer co-incidence that two Ann M GAMES of the same age lived in
Weirs Passage, or was the informant, Hannah TACKLEY of 3a Weirs Passage,
mistaken about the name of Ann's late husband, perhaps confusing him with
his son James who was indeed a coal porter? I am not aware of Hannah
TACKLEY being related to the GAMES in any way.
> I would welcome lister's views on this.
> Don McQueen in Preston, Lancashire
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