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From: "Adrian C Whittaker" <>
Subject: Re: [Lon] 1881 census qst: "born...Canada, R K A"?
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 13:20:55 -0000
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And there is a Canada in Hampshire, England.
Adrian C Whittaker,
in Gravesend, Kent
----- Original Message -----
From: "Astrid Newstead" <>
To: <>
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 12:59 AM
Subject: Re: [Lon] 1881 census qst: "born...Canada, R K A"?
> Dear John,
>
> Thank you for sharing your ideas and observations. I had not thought of
> "Canada" being somewhere else except here, but perhaps this John
NEWSTEAD's
> "Canada" was indeed elsewhere, perhaps even in Warwick. Interesting idea.
>
> In addition, your suggestion to look at the original census returns was an
> excellent one, and I need to do that regardless. The originals might
quickly
> explain the mystery.
>
> I didn't have much reason to work on this particular Newstead family
> earlier, mainly because I have no evidence (yet) that we are related to
the
> Bexley family. However, because there are relatively few Newstead names in
> London, I am now keeping an eye on all of them. I was simply very curious
> about the "Canada" connection, which is why I originally asked. Now my
> interest is greater, and I might indeed see if I can find the children in
> some of our Civil Registration records or through a few other Canadian
> sources.
>
> All this is assuming, of course, that the children were indeed born in our
> young nation of Canada, and not on a ship known as "Canada, RKA" or
similar.
>
> Incidentally, you answered a question I had not thought to ask yet.
Another
> of the Newsteads in the 1881 census had a son born "(BS) United States." I
> meant to ask the list what the "BS" might mean, and now feel much more
> enlightened and somewhat relieved. It is, of course, "British Subject" and
> not "bastard son," as I first thought.
>
> Meanwhile, you, and the other list members who answered this question,
> continue to open my mind to new possibilities and directions, and I thank
> you.
>
> Astrid Terras Newstead
> Gravenhurst, District of Muskoka, Ontario, Canada
> E-mail --
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Henley" <>
> To: "Astrid Terras" <>; <>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 1:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [Lon] 1881 census qst: "born...Canada, R K A"?
>
> <snip> <<< The curiosity is that, from about 1872 until 1876, all four of
> his children are listed as born in "Canada, R K A" -- but what do these
> initials stand for? >>>
>
> > A search of the London M-Z CD using just Canada as the country of birth
> > throws up some interesting oddities for birthplaces, including "Quebec
> Etats
> > Unis Canada"!
> > Using Canada as the name in the place, and leaving Country/County at
All,
> > produces half-a dozen more Canada biryhs, placing Canada in the USA as
> well
> > a Warwickshire, England.
> > This is one of those cases where it is *essential* that you check the
> > original film for mis-readings. - among the more obvious abbreviations
the
> > first search above produces are NB for New Brunswick, NS for Nova
Scotia,
> > NI, I suspect is a misreading of the same, BS is the familiar British
> > Subject, P E I for Prince Edward Island.
> > I think armed with the original document and your own knowledge of
Canada
> > you may find a plausible explanation.
> > Have you also tried Canadian Resources for John's marriage and/or
> children's
> > births?
> > Cheers
> >
> > John Henley
> > (still catching up on masses of emails )
> > researching (and not finding much time for - but always very glad to
hear
> of
> > any)
> > HENLEY, PARKER, PRENTICE, SECKER, RAPER, DURDEN
> > [IN London/Middx./Essex/Suffolk]
> > ROLFE, (O)RAFFERTY, EVANS, PARSONS, SYMONDS [IN Berks/Hants/Wilts]
> > HILL [IN Staffs/Cambs/Berks]
> >
> >
>
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