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From: Eve McLaughlin <>
Subject: Re: [Lon] HELP
Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2002 19:27:10 +0100
In message <001601c20f42$7e9fdf60$>, Noeline Mullins
>Would anyone be able to help me. I am looking for a Estate in London and how to
>go about it ??
>I have found my family on a Ship coming back from London 1921.Now for years I
>have been looking for my G.Grandfathers Death in New Zealand and couldn't find
>it. Bought alot of Death certificates. Now the story goes that his Daughter Mary
>Ann MANN, nee Price was sent to London to pickup someone's estate in London a
>family member. Now I was told she married a man from London also, but wasnt sure
>whether she married in N.Z. or London.But did Marry in Wellington N.Z.
There could be a little confusion as to meanings here.
When you say someone had an 'Estate' , this is normally assumed to mean
a landed estate, with a large house, maybe a few farms, and certainly a
lot of acres in the country.
In strictly modern times, an 'estate' can mean a development of houses
in several linked streets , often all looking the same, all built by or
for one developer, who then rents then out (or sells them to buyers).
But this would not apply in 1921.
In London, you don't get large landed estates like this, and the chances
are that this refers to merely the money and possibly goods left by a
relative. This could be of two kinds
1. Real estate, meaning house and land owned - but in 1920, the majority
of people rented rather than owned their houses
2. Personal estate: money in the bank or as shares. stocks etc;
furniture, household goods, clothing, jewellery, books etc
Probably your relative went after ggfr's/someone's death, to claim what
was hers (and maybe on behalf of other's in the family), to sell up
anything non-portable, pay off any debts, share out anything which is
supposed to be shared out, collect the rest of the money and take it
What you could do with advantage is to look for the will of ggfr. This
should appear in the UK National Probate Indexes, even if he died
abroad, since he had property of some kind in England. One thing to
watch for is that the will just might be that of-say- HIS father, or
brother, who left him something, and this had not been collected before
The Mormopns FH centres can get these Probate Indexes (on microfiche
1853-1943) and they also have or can get films of the wills. The
alternative, once you ID whose will it is, is to send for a copy to
District Probate Registry, Duncombe Place, York YO1, with £5 and they
will send a copy.
>Was also told she lived of the estate for sometime in London
She may have lived in the old family home, if the tenancy was on lease
till the end of the year, or rent paid up for a quarter, till the
furniture was sold etc. If the house was an owned one, it m,ight take a
little longer to clear, and sell and then share out the money.
The Baby Austin shows there was a useful amount over, in cash - and the
temptation was too much.
>and bought the
>first Baby Austin Car into New Zealand. When she got back the family asked where
>is the money from the estate and of course she had spent it.
Author of the McLaughlin Guides for family historians
Secretary Bucks Genealogical Society