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From: "John Henley" <>
Subject: Re: [Lon] Time of birth stated on birth certificates
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 11:17:54 -0000
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Hi Jen,
----- Original Message ----- From: "Lamond" <>
> I was wondering if anyone could please shed light on the stating of the
precise time of birth on a birth certificate. >I have never had it happen
before, but now that it has I seem to remember years ago someone mentioning
that on >the birth certificates of twins, the exact time of birth is stated.
Time should always appear for multiple births, always appears on Scottish
birth certs, and in the early days of registration, many registrars pput
time for single births. For single births hould have disappeared by 1846, by
may just have persisted in places.

> The certificate in question reads: Ellen Annette
>Mary Corvan, born 19th April, 1846. 5 P.M., at 16-----------
>(unreadable address, unfortunately, but the district
>was The Regents Park, Saint Pancras).
If this is a GRO cert send a photocopy of the cert with SAE to the local
Registrar (now covered by Camden - use Google) asking very nicely if they
could verify the Street.

>The Free BDM site shows no mention of another birth - or death- of a
>Corvan child at the same time, so if she was a twin perhaps the other baby
was stillborn and therefore not >registered?
FreeBMD, a wonderful ongoing work, is still only 50% complete, so second
child may not have made the site yet. Or it is a late use of time for single
birth. Or second child did not make quarterly index. All ways, if child a
twin, shpould have been registeed at same time, so again, Camden R.O. should
be able to help.

> Also, with marriage certificates, if the father of either party is
deceased at the time of the marriage, does it state >so on the certificate?
I have several certificates that state the name of the father, followed by
'deceased', and >several more that just have the father's name, and was
wondering if I could presume that the latter cases were still >alive at the
time of the marriage. Thank you yet again for the invaluable advice that
comes from this group. Jen
No presumptions! If the party volunteered the info, or the clergyman asked,
then "Deceased" appears - but he didn't write if he didn't know.

Cheers

John Henley
(still catching up on masses of emails )
using Archive CDs - see
http://www.archivecdbooks.org
and researching (and not finding much time for - but always very glad to
hear of any)
HENLEY, PARKER, PRENTICE, SECKER, RAPER, DURDEN
[IN London/Middx./Essex/Suffolk]
ROLFE, (O)RAFFERTY, EVANS, PARSONS, SYMONDS [IN Berks/Hants/Wilts]
HILL [IN Staffs/Cambs/Berks]



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