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From: "Stella Watkin" <>
Subject: Re: [Lon] Undertaker as informant for death
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 15:39:26 -0000
References: <000b01c2f441$89bad690$0200a8c0@viglen>


Hi Sue


Do you know Henry Eichelroth's occupation as he could be a business
associate of Carl Guggenheim:

If you look on the 1901 census
http://www.census.pro.gov.uk/index.html
402380
Carl Guggenheim 47 Germany German Subject London Hampstead Lace Agent

Adele Guggenheim 38 London Clerkenwell London Hampstead

Sybella Guggenheim 9 London Hampstead London


there is another Guggenheim family in Hampstead, Michael Guggenheim is a
Manufacturer of..............could missing word be lace?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

your Henry Eichelroth and family in 1901:

1275407

Hanry Eichelroth 57 Germany German Subject London Islington Professor
Of Languages

Lizzie Eichelroth 37 England Leamington London Islington

Cajor Eichelroth 16 England London N K London Islington

Ralphitt Eichelroth 2 London England N K London Islington


none of the above are in the 1881 census, I hope this helps you:-)

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Sue Dobbin" <>
To: <>
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 9:09 AM
Subject: [Lon] Undertaker as informant for death


> Eve mentions that an informant for a death cannot be an undertaker, but
> this
> appears to be the case on the death certificate for my step gt
grandfather,
> Henry Eichelroth.
> He died in 1918 at Boscastle Rd, St Pancras and his cause of death was
> certified by a doctor. The informant was 'Carl Guggenheim Causing the Body
> to be Buried, 41 Anson Road Islington.'
> As far as I know Carl Guggenheim isn't a relative (although the German
name
> suggests a link) but the description suggests that he was an undertaker.
> Henry left a widow and children who could have acted as informant.
> Has anyone any ideas about this please.
>
> Regards Sue
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Eve McLaughlin" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 10:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [Lon] Still Scratching my head on the Fryer's
>
>
> > In message <>,
> > Elizabeth Graham-Campbell <> writes
> > >Dear Lister's
> > >I have a copy of a death cert. For a John Fryer, born March 12, 1837 on
> this
> > >certificate it has Kent as his birthplace, I am wondering about that
as.
> > >When zibiah his mother died her address at the time was "Prospect Place
"
> > >Old Kent Road. Also his brothers and sisters were christened at St Mary
> > >Magdalen, Bermondsey. Was "Prospect Place " Old Kent Road close to Kent
> > Not really - Old Kent road is the road you would take if you eventually
> > wanted to get to Kent, but OKR is mostly in Bermondsey or adjacent parts
> > of South London. I think someone got confused, because of seeing or
> > hearing of 'old KENT road'.
> >
> > >wonder? I thought it was in Bermondsey, maybe the border has changed? I
> am
> > >wondering if the person who supplied the facts for the death
certificate
> who
> > >by the looks of it is the undertaker,
> > An undertaker is not qualified to give information for a death
> > certificate in England (unless he is close kin of the deceased, or the
> > householder in the place where a lodger happened to die.) The
> > informant must be
> > a. a close relative
> > b. the householder
> > c. the coroner, if the death is followed by an inquest
> > ah- things may well be different in New Zealand
> >
> > --
> > Eve McLaughlin
> >
> > Author of the McLaughlin Guides for family historians
> > Secretary Bucks Genealogical Society
> >
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