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From: Diane <>
Subject: Re: [Lon] Off-Topic - London accents
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 16:54:16 -0800
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I will definitely check it out.

See, I'm not really sure about all the whereabouts of Thomas and Thomas
Humphrey Pedley.

A gentleman in Exmoor who is doing research on horse racing got in touch
with me because of T. H. Pedley. He sent me the copy of the published
sale of Thomas Pedley's estate. I don't understand, naturally, some of
the terminology used in the article. Here is some of it:

"under the Will of Thomas Pedley, to OFFER for SALE by AUCTION soon
after Lady-day, a valuable LEASEHOLD ESTATE held for nearly 65 years, at
a ground rent of £33 3s 2d; consisting of a very handsome and
substantial detached residence, pleasantly situate in Grove-road,
Mile-end, containing ample accommodations for a numerous and respectable
family, in handsome dining and drawing rooms, morning room, study,
Gentleman's room, 7 bed chambers, 2 dressing rooms, store room 2
staircasess, excellent kitchen, butlers pantry, and other domestic
offices with an extensive range of cellaring an ice well, &c.;
carriage-yard with coach-house, stabling, piggeries, etc.; productive
gardens, extensive front lawn, with bold carriage sweep and paddocks,
alltogether about 5 acres. "

1. When is "Lady-day"?
2. I understand 33 pounds. But I don't know the rest.
3. What is "Leasehold estate held for nearly 65 years"? I was thinking
that maybe that meant that maybe he got the house because it was given
to him by his father. And that maybe it was built 65 years previously.
I wrote to the Guildhall e-mail address that I found on their website
and sent a message asking if there was anyway that I could find out who
owned the property previously to Thomas Pedley. Any history at all.

I found a record of a burial in Huntingdon of Thomas Pedley, age looks
good, and burial time looks good. And if true then it makes the
information handed down appear to be so. Everything so far has been
correct; but I'm going for the proof. But that means that maybe Thomas'
accent might have been different. Correct? If Thomas' parents did come
from Huntington (Tetworth area) what would their accents be? And would
I be correct in assuming that he probably would have taken on the
pattern of his parents?

We're going to have our Christmas dinner tomorrow evening as my
son-in-law, who is a fire fighter has to get up early and go in to
work. So although we always do our Christmas presents on Christmas
morning and dinner that evening, we will do something new this year as I
don't want my son-in-law to miss it. So, that means that right now I'm
fixing the yams and cranberry sauces..................

More later,
Diane



Lyn Yates wrote:

> Hi Kaz
>
> There's a fantastic site
> http://www.collectbritain.co.uk/collections/dialects/ . Years ago the
> British Library started collecting regional accents which they thought
> were in danger of disappearing or being homogenized. You can search
> for whatever region you like on this site, and not only are the
> accents interesting but the stories told by people of their early life
> are fascinating.
>
> Cheers,
> LynY
> Melbourne
>
>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: kaz campling [mailto:]
>>> Sent: 23 December 2005 10:37
>>> To:
>>> Subject: Re: [Lon] Off-Topic
>>>
>>>
>>> I have a question that maybe everyone else would know, but I don't.
>>> And
>>> that is, the British accents that my ancestors would have had.
>>>
>>> Hiya Diane, the 'cockney' accent wasn't a very nice accent although I
>>> personally love it, reminds me of my childhood, visiting family in
>>> Leyton.
>>> My Dad was a true Cockney but he purposly lost his cockney accent
>>> because
>>
>> he
>>
>>> felt it sounded very common. The best person to listen to would be Alf
>>> Garnett, not a movie star, but a great actor. His best acting can be
>>> seen
>>
>> in
>>
>>> a British sitcom called Til death us to part. Bob Hoskins has a great
>>
>> accent
>>
>>> also, the one person whom you don't want to make a comparison to is
>>> Dick
>>
>> Van
>>
>>> Dyke!!!!! lol
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