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From: HILARY BLANFORD <>
Subject: Re: [LON] Mary Ann Hart - London / Middlesex
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:30:22 +0000 (GMT)
I found 2 possible Mary Anns in the 1841 census. One was in Mile End
Old Town and she appeared to be living with Sarah Butler, aged 60, a nurse.
The other was with William Hart, 45, horsehair [merchant] and Martha 40. They were living in Islington.
I looked in the Ancestry Historic Records for a baptism that fitted with your family and there were a number of possibilities.
To save time opening all the images I looked on www.FamilySearch.org / International Genealogy Index and entered Mary Hart born 1831 +/- 2. British Isles, England, London Greater
Again a number of possibilities for you to consider if you wanted to screen the data before using Ancestry at your local library, if this is a possibility. Or you could use a pay per view or Trial subscription to use Ancestry at home.
However, if you look on Family Search there is a Mary Ann daughter of John William Hart and Jane Mary Talbot baptised at the Ebenezer Chapel in Shadwell. I think this is the closest match. This baptism will not be in the Ancestry Collection, but you you will probably find it on The National Archives site (ours, not yours!) Click on BMDs on home page, click on Research Guides and then scroll through data to find the link to the non-conformist registers. Before you pay for this entry it might be worth comparing the Mary Harts and their families using the 1841 and 1851 census returns. If your Mary Ann's mother died then her father may have re-married so don't be put off by another first name. You could use www.FreeBMD.org.uk (from Sep 1837) to look for mother's death and or father's remarriage - I suggest you use Middlesex as county to start with. Before that date then Family Search and some of the Ancestry historic documents may help you.
Hopefully that will help to fit Mary Ann with a family.
Was she a bounty passenger? I don't know if any of the reference letters survive, but somebody on the list might know. There is also a Rootsweb maritime list where people can help you and a very informative website called
Did you find her immigration records in the ANA or State Library archives?
--- On Sat, 14/11/09, Jan Vernon <> wrote:
From: Jan Vernon <>
Subject: [LON] Mary Ann Hart - London / Middlesex
Date: Saturday, 14 November, 2009, 23:34
I am new to the list and this is the first time I find myself researching in
the London area. Mary Ann Hart has been my "brick wall" for the last 20
years but a breakthrough in the form of a newspaper report of an inquest
into her death has reignited my interest in her. I have now found her
immigration records and so have some clues as to her background.
Could someone please give me some guidance as to where to start with this
information?. I have looked at different web sites about London research
and feel overwhelmed.
Mary Ann Hart arrived in Australia on the Harbinger in 1849 aged 18 years
and her calling was nursemaid. She could both read and write and her
religion was noted as Independent. Records show that her native place is
London / Middlesex. Under the heading of "Parents names and if alive their
residences" it shows "John William and Mary Jane" with a further notation
"father resides in London", so I assume that her mother has died.
Mary had a daughter Mary G. Andrews in March 1851 however on the baptism
records the father of the child is listed as Henry Andrews and then someone
has added in the margin "reputed father". There is no marriage of Mary Hart
to Henry Andrews.
Mary Ann Hart died in November 1854. An inquest was held at the time of her
death at the home of her employer Dr. Gordon Gwynne of Parramatta. Mary Ann
Hart had been his housekeeper for 4 years and was aged 21 or 22 years. A
rather large tombstone marks her grave and Dr Gordon Gwynne adopted the 3
year old daughter of Mary Ann even though he did not have a wife.
That is all the information I have on my Mary Ann Hart. Any help or
guidance as to where to go now would be greatly appreciated.
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