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Subject: [LDR] Re: Prettyman/West Connections
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 20:56:01 EST




Eva, I am unlining my remarks. DMJ

In a message dated 12/17/2001 4:29:02 PM Eastern Standard Time,
writes:


> Thanks so much for answering my questions. Now I will make comments usings
> bold. "W. F. Leatherbury" wrote:
> >> Eva, I've put my replies after each of your questions in the message
>> below. I've put my replies in blue font. That'll probably mess up the
>> GHOTES with a lot of junk, but it'll make it easier for you to follow.
>> Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2001 20:29:01 -0800 From: "Eva J. Ruben" <<A HREF="mailto:">
>> </A>>
>> Subject: re: Prettyman/West Connection
>> Children of John Prettyman, Jr. and Wife, Unknown: Are you saying that
>> his first wife was not Elizabeth ? (Last name unknown? This is what I have
>> for John Prettyman II who died before 31 Mar 1724 when his will was
>> probated in Sussex County, DE.
>> You give the date of birth for Thomas Prettyman as circa 1712. Ruth
>> Montgomery gave the date as 6 Dec 1919. I presume you mean the Thomas
>> Prettyman, who was the son of John Prettyman III and his wife Elizabeth. I
>> also have his date of birth as 6 Dec 1719 in Sussex County, DE. However,
>> he had an uncle by the same name. This Thomas was born about 1685 and was
>> the son of John Prettyman I, who died before 31 Mar 1724 when his will was
>> probated.
I believe the Thomas Prettyman you are referring to as b 1712 was the
son of Thomas Prettyman and Comfort Burton. Bill is correct on the Thomas
Prettyman b 6 Dec 1719 he was the son of John Prettyman III, Esquire. This
Thomas Prettyman is referred to as Thomas Prettyman, Esquire and he married
Comfort Smith.

> >> You mention Elizabeth (Betty) Prettyman (b. ca 1722) married Samuel
>> Coulter. Was he the son of William Coulter? Was he also married to Mary
>> Black? This Elizabeth (Betty) Prettyman was the d/o Thomas Prettyman (d.
>> before 17 Jul 1719 in Sussex County, DE) and his wife Comfort Burton. She
>> had 2 brothers named Thomas and Robert and she was born on 25 Nov 1712 in
>> Sussex County, DE.
>> Do you have an Elizabeth Prettyman who was baptized on 29 Dec 1745? I do
>> not have this one, although I do have some that are close to that time.
>> Robert Prettyman (b. 3 Aug 1724). You show that he died bef. 20 Feb
>> 1743/44. To which Robert Prettyman does the will abstract apply to
>> which appears on page 83 of Calendar of Sussex County dated 22 Mar 1769? I
>> show this Robert Prettyman (b. 3 Aug 1724) as having died before 20 May
>> 1769 in Sussex County, DE when his will was probated. I don't have one who
>> died before 20 Feb 1743/1744. If Robert Prettyman was born in 1724 and
>> died in 1743/44 he would have been only 20 years old at most. I would have
>> been very difficult for him to have married and have 6 children as I show
>> that this Robert Prettyman had.
>> Comfort Prettyman (b. circa 1726) m. David Marvel. I have David Marvel
>> married to a Sarah Comfort Prettyman, daughter of Thomas & Elizabeth.
>> Where is the problem? This is how I have it. David Marvel died 9 Feb 1796
>> and left 4 children: Prettyman, David, Burton and one not born or not
>> named. Sarah (Sally) Comfort Prettyman married as her second husband Moses
>> Daizy. Her second husband may have survived her, as she died in 1801.I
>> have the 9 Feb 1796 as the probate date for David Marvel. I have him with
>> a daughter Elizabeth born 25 Oct 1785 or 1789.
Here is my thoughts on David Marvel and his wives.
It has been commonly accepted that the mother of Prettyman Marvel was Sara
Prettyman dau of Thomas Prettyman. This in spite of the fact that Prettyman
Marvel was born 29 Jan 1763 and his father, David Marvel did not marry Sara
Prettyman until 5 Jan 1789. (F. Ed Wright, Vital Records of Kent and Sussex
Co., DE p 132 and abstracted from records of Lewes & Coolspring Presbyterian
Church). David Marvel in his will probated 9 Jan 1796 names heirs: wife
Sally Marvel; sons David, Burton and Prettyman Marvel; daus, Elizabeth Marvel
and Patience Knowles; and dau-in-law (step daughter) Polly Prettyman. He
mentions his three youngest children, Elizabeth, David and Burton Marvel..
David by making a difference in his three youngest children indicates that he
had been previously married. Him mentioning a step daughter Polla Prettyman
indicates this also, and indicates that he had previously been married to a
Prettyman widow. The children of David Marvel were:
1. Patience Marvel b 31 Jan 1758 m James Knowles.
2. Prettyman Marvel b 29 Jan 1763 m Levina Rogers dau of John Rogers and
Comfort Prettyman.
Children by David Marvel and Sara Prettyman
3. Elizabeth Marvel born 25 Oct 1789 )Wright p 108)
4. David Marvel
5. Burton Marvel
Sara Prettyman Marvel by 12 Sep 1797 married Moses Dazey as she appeared in
court as Sara Dazey and widow of David Marvel. Sara Prettyman Marvel Dazey
and Moses Dazey had son Prettyman Marvel Dazey b 5 Dec 1797 (Wright p 158).
The Sussex Co., DE Orphans Court Records show that in 1803-4 that David and
Burton Marvel were under guardianship of Eli Pepper, so they were still
underage at that time.

The question now is who was the mother of Patience and Prettyman Marvel?
Pauline Manning Batchelder, Editor, "Somerset Sampler", p 178, states.
"There is some confusion regarding wife of David Marvel: most Marvel
accounts state she was Sarah Prettyman, but Levin Wilson of Gibson Co., IN, a
great-grandson of David Marvel, stated in 1896 that she was Comfort Prettyman
and that his mother, Comfort Marvel (Knowles) Wilson, was named for her; he
also stated that David and Comfort’s family was composed of daus and only one
son, Prettyman-as if he had been unaware of the the three youngest ch."
Some Marvel researcher have tried to correct the problem of mother of
Prettyman Marvel and reconcile this with Levin Wilson’s statement by stating
that Prettyman Mavel’s mother was Sara Comfort Prettyman. It was common in
1700’s for parents to give two children same names when one had died young.
This was not the case with Thomas Prettyman as his first born daughter,
Comfort Prettyman, was still living in 1790’s when she made her will as
Comfort Rogers widow of John Rogers. David Marvel I believe was first
married to Comfort Prettyman dau of William Prettyman. David then married
second a Prettyman widow, and he married third 1789 Sara Prettyman.

Jacob Prettyman (b. ca 1735) - I have that he had a son in about 1750. Was
this
> >> Joseph Prettyman (b. ca 1735) the son of William and Temperance Prettyman?
>>
>> I have Joseph listed as born in c. 1733 or c. 1747 as the son of William
>> and Temperance.
>>
>> Do you have a Comfort Prettyman born about 1755? Who were her parents? I
>> have a couple that fit that approximate time period, give or take a decade
>> or so.I have her as a child of William & Temperance
>> I have Anne Prettyman b. 14 Oct 1731 daughter of William and Elizabeth
>> married to John West but do not show a daughter named Ann West. I have
>> Anne Prettyman b. 14 Oct 1731 as the d/o William and Temperance Prettyman.
>> She married John West, Sr. on 10 Jan 1749/1750 in Sussex County, DE. They
>> had 4 children named Elizabeth (b. 5 Aug 1751), Joseph (b. 22 Apr 1755),
>> Comfort (b. 25 Nov 1757) and Anne (b. ca 1759). Anne Prettyman could have
>> been the d/o William by his second wife Elizabeth Burton but I don't know
>> when Elizabeth Burton died. I do know that William Prettyman did not die
>> until 1748.I did not have this Anne - thanks for the information
>> Do you have an Elizabeth Prettyman born 1 Dec 1741? I do not. I do have an
>> Elizabeth Prettyman b. 10 Dec 1749 in Indian River Hundred in Sussex
>> County, DE. She was the d/o Robert Prettyman (d. 1769).
>> Do you have a Sarah Prettyman born about 1745? I have 3 who fit that bill.
>> One was the d/o John Prettyman and Comfort Leatherbury and b. about 1742.
>> A second was the d/o William Prettyman and Sarah Herring and b. about
>> 1740. The third was the d/o Robet Prettyman and Eleanor Craig and was
>> baptized 20 Oct 1745. Take your choice.
>> Do you have a Burton Prettyman born 2 March 1745 and died in 1794? I have
>> a Burton Prettyman, Sr. b. about 1742 and d. about 1792. He was the s/o
>> William Prettyman and Sarah Herring. Is this the one?
>> Do you have an Elizabeth Prettyman born 6 Jan 1757? Again, I have 3 who
>> would fit that bill. One was the d/o Isaac Prettyman and Sarah
>> Leatherbury. Another was the d/o Thomas Prettyman and Comfort Stockley. A
>> third was the d/o John Prettyman and Comfort Leatherbury and married
>> Prettyman Stockley. Take your choice.I have this as the baptism date for
>> the third Elizabeth. Was her husband the son of Prettyman Stockley Sr. and
>> Ann Stockley.
>> Do you have an Eleanor Prettyman born ca. 1761? I have only 2 this time.
>> One was the d/o John Prettyman and Comfort Leatherbury and the other was
>> the d/o Robert Prettyman and Eleanor Craig. Which one do you want?
>> I did not have the first Eleanor - thanks again for the information.
>>
>> Appreciate all the help I can get in straighening out the Prettyman
>> family. Just as confusing as the Wests. No, actually I think it's worse
>> in some ways.
>> A nice challange to get it correct - sure appreciate your help.
>> Eva (Mrs. Dana West Ruben)
>>
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