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From: "David Kearney" <>
Subject: Re: [LDR] This Was Chesapeake Bay
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2004 22:49:12 -0400
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Kay,

Yes, at least based on the book's description, it seems the C&O had a Newport News-Norfolk "connecting link" ship line. The ship running on this line was first named the John Romer. In 1889, after reconstruction, she was rechristened Louise, after the daughter of M. E. Ingalls, president of the C&O at the time.

The book also carries a chapter on "The Veteran C&O Steamer Virginia." The Virginia served the Newport News-Norfolk line as a passenger ferry for nearly 50 years, ending her service for the line in 1949.

I would think that most Chesapeake Bay area libraries carry this book, but I don't know. If your library doesn't have it, you should try interlibrary loan, or perhaps contact the Mariners Museum in Newport News ... the museum giftshop might even offer the book for sale ... the book seems to "have legs" -- it has been through at least five printings, with the first in 1963. I'm working off of a 1990 release.

I am still working my way through it, but it sure has been fun reading ... and gives a good feeling of earlier days on the Bay.

Dave Kearney

----- Original Message -----
From: Kay Grogg
To:
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 10:20 PM
Subject: Re: [LDR] This Was Chesapeake Bay


David,
Did the Chesapeake and Ohio RR have a steam ship line out of Newport News,
too? I seem to remember that my Kelly's worked for a RR/steamship line out
of Norfolk or NpN, VA. Does your book have info. on that ship line? How
can I get a copy? Sounds like a book that I would enjoy reading just for
fun.
Thanks,
Kay Hess Grogg
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Kearney" <>
To: <>
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 9:55 PM
Subject: Re: [LDR] This Was Chesapeake Bay


> Nancy,
>
> I don't see anything too close to Marine/Mareen/Merine in the book's
index. Perhaps the closest is a Frederick Mayer, who designed the unusual
steam yacht, Comfort, build in Baltimore in 1887.
>
> The index lists two individuals with the surname Ross. Charles Ross
is mentioned in a narrative by Captain Ivy B. McNamara, as one of a group of
five who went on an ice oystering expedition on the Choptank River during
the "big freeze" during the winter of 1917-1918. Captain McNamara lived in
Cambridge, Maryland at the time, and Charles Ross might have lived in the
same area.
>
> T. W. Ross is mentioned as the Assistant Superintendent of Repairs at
the Newport News Shipbuilding and Dry Dock Company. In about 1910, Captain
Cooksey presented Ross a carved wooded eagle that had graced the top of the
pilothouse on the Louise, which ran for several years between Norfolk and
Newport News, Virginia as a connection for the Chesapeake and Ohio Railroad.
>
> Let me know if you think one of these Ross individuals is a Ross you
are looking for, and I can send you a transcription of the relevant
paragraph.
>
> Dave K
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Nancy M. Dickinson
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 11:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [LDR] This Was Chesapeake Bay
>
>
> I somehow missed the original posting on this, but hope this will serve
as
> good enough.
>
> Would the person that has this book mind looking in the index for anyone
> with the last name Marine, Mareen, Merine or any spelling similar?
Also,
> would be interested to know if the surname Ross is in there.
>
> Nancy Dickinson
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kay Grogg" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 7:59 AM
> Subject: Re: [LDR] This Was Chesapeake Bay
>
>
> > David.
> > I received an email from you, through a list serve I assume, telling
about
> a
> > book on mariners from the Bay area near Baltimore et al. My great
great's
> > were mariners in that area in the late 1800's. I would be interested
to
> > know if they are listed in the index. If so I would be very
interested in
> > purchasing a copy of the book. If not, I would be interested in
reading
> it
> > just for the historical background of my family. The names with brief
> info.
> > on them, as I have it to date, follows.
> > Thank you in advance for taking time to look for me.
> > Sincerely,
> > Kay Hess Grogg
> >
> > John Franklin Kelly- Somerset Co., MD b.1837-d.1874
> > Sons:
> > William J.T. Kelly- Somerset Co.; Baltimore; Ocracoke, NC; b.1865- d.
194?
> > in Norfolk/Portsmouth, VA area. *Capt. William Kelly left Baltimore
in
> 1890
> > and moved to Ocracoke Island, NC. There he married a local and was a
sea
> > capt. in the NC/VA area until he died in the Norfolk area in the early
> part
> > of the 1900's.
> >
> > James F. Kelly- Mariner in the Baltimore area, b.1867-d. ?
> >
> > William Kelly's sons were also Sea Captains in the NC/VA area the
early
> part
> > of the 1900's. They were George F. Kelly and Sherwood Kelly. One of
them
> > died at sea and was buried at sea in the 1920-1940 time frame. No
info.
> on
> > which son this was. They captained steam ships out of Norfolk/Newport
> > News,VA area. They sailed from the MD to South America area, is the
> "family
> > story".
> >
> > Thanks again for taking time to look for me.
> > khg
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "David Kearney" <>
> > To: <>
> > Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 8:20 PM
> > Subject: [LDR] This Was Chesapeake Bay
> >
> >
> > > LDRRooters,
> > >
> > > I'm reading through "This Was Chesapeake Bay," by Robert H.
Burgess,
> > and it occurred to me that the book could be of some interest for LDR
> > rooters with more direct ties with the Bay. I might be able to do
some
> > limited look-ups.
> > >
> > > Burgess was a Baltimore native and a long-time curator at The
> Mariners
> > Museum. He wrote many articles for newspapers in the Bay area, with a
> > particular emphasis on sailing ships and steamships of the 1800s and
first
> > half of the 1900s. In fact, the book is largely a compendium of
articles
> > that Mr. Burgess wrote over the years, along with quite a few old
> > photographs (many of them taken by the author himself). Obviously,
the
> > western edge of the Delmarva is included within the scope of his work.
> > >
> > > The book's original release was in 1963, and I'm working off of
the
> > 1990 printing.
> > >
> > > The book provides a look at many of the better known ships of
the
> Bay
> > in days gone by, along with many of their stopping places, and
mentions at
> > about 300-400 individuals involved with the Bay in different roles
over
> the
> > relevant time period.
> > >
> > > If you think you might have an ancestor who was involved in some
way
> > with the Bay, particularly in some fashion with one of the better
known
> > ships on the Bay, I would be happy to look for you to see if they show
up
> in
> > the book's index, and, if so, then we can go from there!
> > >
> > > If you would rather get your own copy of the book to read about
the
> > heyday of ships on the Bay, I bet Neil maybe can find copies for you!
> > >
> > > Dave Kearney
> > >
> > >
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