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From: Valorie Zimmerman <>
Subject: Re: Watch out for those Listowners! (was: Advertising on List)
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 21:33:43 -0700
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Darrell, I think you are missing a bit of the point. The discussion
hasn't been about ONE listowner, already a long and trusted member of
another LO's list, posting once about their list. I think pretty much
everyone would agree that that is OK -- and on those lists where it
would NOT be OK, the subscribers are pretty clear about the strictness
with which the list is run!

However, sometimes, in an excess of enthusiasm, a new listowner subs to
numerous lists, posts their ad, and then unsubs. While some LOs might
not mind, many more DO. It is only common courtesy, in such cases, to
send the "ad" to the listowner hirself, for posting or discarding. I ask
all my subscribers to send off-topic or questionable material directly
to me, rather than just posting to the list. Usually I pass it on, but
that does save my list members virus warnings, smarmy poetry and other
junk.

Valorie


"Darrell A. Martin" wrote:
>
> At 06:59 PM 10/15/2000, ETM wrote:
> >I can't imagine most listowners refusing my request, nor my refusing someone
> >else's request, but I do think it is common courtesy to ask a listowner
> >about such posts before sending them through.
> >
> >Elaine
>
> Hi, Elaine:
>
> ----------
> Why?
> ----------
>
> OK, now that I've got the summary of my message out of the way (and it is
> NOT a rhetorical question), let me wax more or less eloquent and/or verbose
> <grin>.
>
> First, it appears that a significant number of listowners consider it
> discourteous for me to post to their lists without a prior request. So,
> should I have the opportunity to make such a post, I will indeed make the
> request. It is, truly, a very small price to pay to maintain harmony.
>
> Second, to all listowners: you have carte blanche to post any message to
> any list that I admin. I only request that the message should be relevant
> to the list and conform to the AUP. I also further request that, as a
> courtesy to my overloaded IN basket, you *not* get permission in advance. I
> promise, however, NOT to put you on the reject list if you forget and ask
> <grin>.
>
> Third, I have still not seen any rationale as to why a message that would
> be acceptable, if it came from one of my other subscribers, would be
> impolite just because it is from a RootsWeb listowner. I have plenty of
> trouble with attempted spammers and bouncing subscribe attempts. Why should
> I screen messages from anyone who spends a significant amount of their
> spare time helping out genealogists on RootsWeb?
>
> I've got the "what" down pat. I want to know WHY. (Reiterating: if you want
> to know how I'm going to **act**, please refer to the paragraph beginning
> "First".)
>
> Darrell A. Martin
> VTGEN, VTWINDSO, VTORANGE, VTCALEDO, VTLAMOIL,
> FELCH, LOWER, and ROUSSEAU/RUSSEAU List Admin
>

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