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From: "Mary D. Taffet" <>
Subject: Re: [LO] [Fwd: Mail System Error - Returned Mail]
Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2001 23:49:54 -0500
References: <3C0D98F0.E9422B8@sk.sympatico.ca>


Peter,

This is just one of perhaps many @home.com bounces you will receive.
Fortunately this one actually shows you the address which is subscribed
to your list. Your bouncer for this one is , which
is being forwarded to an @home.com address.

I'll show you the most important clues below.

-- Mary Taffet


"P. S. Wyant" wrote:
>
> And here's another one that looks to be the same thing, but to a
> different list.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Peter W.
>
>
> [snip]
>
> This Message was undeliverable due to the following reason:
>
> HEIALMBOS.MHRIH
>
> <>


We have all come to recognize this rather strange reason --
HEIALMBOS.MHRIH -- as being associated with many if not all of our
@home.com bounces. Also, the above address is an expanded @home.com
address which is not subscribed to your list.


>
> [snip]
>
>


The "Received:" section of your bounce can often be the most informative
part.



>
> Received: from mh5-sfba.mail.home.com ([24.0.95.234])
> by femail48.sdc1.sfba.home.com
> (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP
> id <>
> for <>;
> Tue, 4 Dec 2001 19:43:20 -0800


Above is the last stop, where the @home.com address is expanded to a
longer internal version (which will not be subscribed to any mailing
lists).



> Received: from mx5-sfba.mail.home.com (mx5-sfba.mail.home.com [24.0.95.230])
> by mh5-sfba.mail.home.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id TAA06624
> for <>; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 19:43:17 -0800 (PST)


Above you see @home.com receiving the message intended for




> Received: from chmls10.mediaone.net (chmls10.mediaone.net [24.147.1.147])
> by mx5-sfba.mail.home.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id fB53hEL26099
> for <>; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 19:43:15 -0800 (PST)
> Received: from elmls03.ce.mediaone.net (chmls22.ne.ipsvc.net [24.147.1.165])
> by chmls10.mediaone.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fB53hEs02888
> for <>; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 22:43:14 -0500 (EST)


Above you see two mediaone.net servers being used as entry points to
@home.com -- why I couldn't say


> Received: from chmls19.mediaone.net ([24.147.1.154]) by
> elmls03.ce.mediaone.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with
> ESMTP id GNUQ3V00.RPU for <>; Tue, 4 Dec
> 2001 22:38:19 -0500
> Received: from chmls10.mediaone.net (chmls10.mediaone.net [24.147.1.147])
> by chmls19.mediaone.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fB53chf04914
> for <>; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 22:38:43 -0500 (EST)


The above two receipts show mediaone mail servers receiving mail for
mediaone.net addresses



> Received: from lists7.rootsweb.com (lists7.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.56])
> by chmls10.mediaone.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fB53bos10381
> for <>; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 22:38:43 -0500 (EST)


The above receipt line is the most crucial of all, for it tells you that
Rootsweb sent the message to , which will be the
address subscribed to your mailing list.



> [snip]

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