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From:"Don Kelly" <>Subject:Re: [LO] on and off subjectDate:Fri, 15 Mar 2002 10:56:16 -0800References:<00e701c1cbff$1e2f4d40$668013d0@earthlink.net> <3C91BC8D.88925340@zimres.net> <001001c1cc08$6805cda0$3f8013d0@earthlink.net> <3C91CA38.3AB65040@zimres.net>"Valorie Zimmerman" wrote:

"Tim is very unlikely to have success, as he will be seen as representing

a SPAMMER. Only the subscribers have a voice which will be heard. If

they do not speak up, the ISPs will not change."

Valorie IMHO is right; this rootsweb spam problem is caused by Ancestry.com.

I believe AC will contact ISPs and perhaps alter their marketing program

through rootsweb, which must produce a miniscule percentage of their income.

That would give us as list managers and our subscribers a big break, because

the way it is going, ISPs the world over have the power to shut rootsweb

mailing lists down.....let's face it.., they could bomb us out of existence.

As list owners, rootsweb problems are our problems, but Ancestry problems

are way down the list.

Our main problem is how to keep our subscribers happy, not easy with a bomb

hanging over their heads.

I have a suggestion that if there are enough complainants might work.

Everyone form groups according to whom their ISP is, and flood their ISP

with complaints about their favorite mailing list being blocked by the ISP.

If there are enough complaints.....might not take more than fifty or so, the

ISP will have to do something...........do something meaning anything from

dropping the block to kicking you off as an account. Hmmmmmmmm.

Either way, one way or the other, some kind of movement must take

place....we just can't set still and be victimized by the ISPs who's filters

are too tight.

Those same ISPs have accounts promoting porno and all kinds of spam, so

shutting something as innocuous as rootsweb off is laughable.

LASTLY, off subject, but what does the following mean? Is it dead forever,

or just suspended?

Mailaddress is administratively disabled. (LDAP-ERR #220)

Thanks all for indulging my opinion.<GRIN>

Don

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- [LO] What to do next? by "Ramona Gayle Bayes Woods" <>
- Re: [LO] What to do next? by Valorie Zimmerman <>
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- Re: [LO] What to do next? by Carol Sterling <>
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