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From: DB <>
Subject: Re: [LO] Weird Email
Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 08:34:39 -0600
Like Tom, I have gotten a few bounces recently and the email address
that the list was trying to contact was not from a subscribed member.
How can the list try to mail people who are not even subscribed?
The differences in my case were:
- The bounces were a couple of weeks apart.
- The header indicated no such email address existed.
> Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 10:17:53 EST
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> Subject: Re: [LO] Weird Email
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> In a message dated 12/7/2005 7:45:53 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> Dear Abuse,
> I am a list administrator and keep getting weird email regarding the
> group. It is is mail failure alerts, but the person referenced does not
> belong to my group. I get a number of these "returned mail" alerts a day.
> What is going on? The longer this goes on, the more it smells like SPAM
> intrusion or address harvesting of some sort. Thanks, Tom
> Hi, Tom-
> This is a bounce notice indicating that list mail cannot be delivered to one
> of your list subscribers:
> ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
> Note the following: Message could not be delivered for 5 days
> Message will be deleted from queue
> This means that a message originally posted to the list on Dec. 1st was sent
> to the above subscriber and couldn't be delivered for a period of 5 days and
> is now being returned to you in the form of a bounce.
> On Dec. 1st when the list message went out this address was no doubt
> subscribed to your list--but probably bounced off and the 5 day delayed bounces just
> have to catch up before they will stop. It can seem like a very long 5 days
> when you are getting these delayed bounces but they should stop eventually
> on their own with no intervention from you.