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From: James Shuman <>
Subject: Re: [LO] Forwards of moderated messages
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 12:05:41 -0700
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Your description sounds very much like what I have been accustomed
to. I complained -- loudly -- to my ISP a year or so ago, and after
some careful checking and monitoring, they pointed out to me that the
messages were actually not leaving RootsWeb's possession very
quickly. Even though the messages were already in the archives, my
own individual copy of that message didn't start its progress to my
inbox until much later.

The explanation I was given was that the messages were sent out in
"packets" by RW rather than in a single "burst" so that transmission
lines weren't overloaded, and followed different routes to their
destinations, thus taking different lengths of time to arrive.

Not a very satisfactory answer, I know. I also discovered that some
of RootsWeb's servers seemed to be much quicker at delivering my mail
than others. Nothing I could really prove, but a strong hunch.

And... maybe this is just "smoke," but it always seemed to me that
the bigger the list, the longer it took my messages to arrive. I
chalked it up to having a name near the end of the alphabet, but
someone pointed out that my email name is actually in the first half
of the alphabet -- as is yours.


At 2:04 PM -0400 9/11/06, wrote:
>I've been checking headers and when I post to LO the reply comes through to
>me within a minute as it always did--instantaneously. (and the list has not
>If I approve a pending request of gatewayed posts or do a manual unsub for
>migrated lists--the turnaround time is anywhere from 9 minutes to 25
>It used to be instantaneous.
>When I reply on a list the reply can take anywhere from 20 minutes to a few
>hours to come through. I've made a few replies that were completely unneeded
>because others had already replied and I just never saw their replies until
>hours later and then hours after that my reply comes through. That really
>isn't acceptable on mailing lists. And I've checked the headers and it seems
>that AOL is picking up the replies as soon as possible--the delays definitely
>seem to be on RootsWeb's end. If the delay were on AOL's end I'd not be
>receiving the unmigrated list mail instantly.
>Here is the latest example of a message I posted on Senior-Newbie:
> This is when I sent it: <>; Mon, 11 Sep 2006
>13:32:24 -0400 (EDT)
>And this is when it was handed off from lists9 to AOL:
>Received: from ( []) by
> (v112.5) with ESMTP id
>MAILRELAYINXA48-6c4505a2e4363; Mon,
>11 Sep 2006 13:54:45 -0400
>That is a 22 minutes delay--not good!

James Shuman


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