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Subject: Re: [LO] Strange bounce
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 02:53:16 EST


Yes...this one took me back to SmartList days. BUT...the RootsWeb techies
sort of fixed that problem under MailMan in that they added that ERRORS TO
header field and had the actual subscribed address inserted into that
field. That means when a list post is bounced back, if the bounce includes the
original list message headers the admin CAN find the subscribed address even
in cases of forwarding. In this case that information wasn't being included
in the Uncaught Bounce notice.

For instance in your list post -- my copy shows the following:

Errors-To: l+-istowners-bounce+jyoung6180=

With this information if my copy bounced back to RootsWeb, no matter where
the bounce might come back from (if I was using forwarding) the subscribed
address would be known.


In a message dated 1/28/2010 2:47:09 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
Hi, the problem with forwarded messages bouncing back to list is just as
old as our lists are. When running Roots-L I got such problems now and

First I was checking the headers of the bouncing mail in order to see if
the headers from server (first, the apple server and the in order to see if original subscriber was ment some place
during the forwardings.

If not I was checking for lookalike addresses and then tested these
addresses directly with a message mentioning subscribers name in subject
field and a message explaining why they got THAT message. In case I hit
the forwarder, I would get a bounce with the correct subscriber in
subject line.

If that failed, there is only one option left, download the subscribers
list and send each one a message with a standard test why (looking for a
bad address bouncing and please don't reply since that would perhaps end
their subs etc. etc.)

Quite often I found the bouncer quickly then.

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