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From: "Tom Hutchison" <>
Subject: Re: [LO] You are the part of the SOLUTION,not a victim (was - Lot of S*P*A*M ...)
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 22:32:39 -0500
References: <20111117200255.OXV32.87435.root@hrndva-web23-z02><4EC5BB1A.4010608@sprynet.com>
In-Reply-To: <4EC5BB1A.4010608@sprynet.com>


I never said I was the VICTIM. Everyone who uses the websites at Ancestry, Rootsweb and myfamily.com are the victims.

These emails ARE NOT SENT to the list itself, but to the -admin address. My lists are not open to non-subscribers, and any email to the list itself would get queued for approval or denial and an email is sent to me as notification of this.

Example email...

There was addressed today the Whitmore list, backscattered to one of my lists as a return path -admin. Whitmore must reject non subscriber emails without the queuing of it for approval so the email was backscattered to my -admin address which is then forwarded to my real email.

The reason I said everyone is the victim, processing time. If 10,000 spam emails are sent, 1 sec of mail server time receiving it, 10,000 seconds. Say half were returned as backscatter to -admin emails, the other half were queued and an email was sent to the admins of the lists notifying of the email. That's 5000 seconds, processed and an email sent, 5000 seconds bounced back to -admin which had to be processed again and sent to the real admin's email, another 10,000 seconds. 20000 seconds equals 5 1/2 hours of server time processing spam!!! Of which could be spent making census searches faster, boards searching faster, uploads of gedcoms faster. Of course 1 sec could be .5 or 1.5 or whatever, the point is it is WASTING RESOURCES AND LIST ADMINS are a contributing cause. Mainly because they think they know it all because they’ve been a list admin forever, admin 100s of lists(don’t get me started) or retired from an IT job and everything is still the same as when they left.

One of the lists was one I requested in the 90s, so I’m not some newbie to this. My original email contained an idea to help the problem and reduce unnecessary resource use. So far, and not surprised, I’m sorry I even posted this. In typical fashion, no suggestions or constructive comments save one, just criticism.

Tom

PS, Listowner admin, you might want to turn on replies to the list so everyone can benefit from replies to posts.


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