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Subject: Re: [MACHELSEA] Chelsea genealogy
Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 15:43:43 -0400
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Chelsea folks used to be buried in Copp's bfore there was a buring ground in Chelsea.
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Subject: Re: [MACHELSEA] Chelsea genealogy
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I understand that part of Chelsea was called Pulling Point, and then it was
called Bill Family Farms, and then it became Winthrop. I'm a Bill
descendant. If I go to Winthrop is there an old cemetery of that era where I
might
find some gravestones of the Bill family?
We'll be coming down to go to Logan Airport, so I might as well take a
detour to Winthrop to see what I can see. I found some of the Bills buried in
Copp's hill burial ground (next to Boston's old North Chuch) but I have no idea
why they were there and not in Chelsea or Winthrop.
Heather Rojo
Londonderry, NH
chelsea was boston then winnimessitt for the ferry pulling point came from
the ropes on the ferry being pulled in winnimessitt [sp?]then prattville
probably bills too. then came no chelsea which was broken up into winthrop and
revere
then chelsea lost some to malden and saugus everett
leaving chelsea winthrop and revere as is today
chelsea was founded by presbyterians and universalists. the presbyterians[
forbes and co]invited longford area catholics to chelsea . they came to halifax
and walked to chelsea
in st. roses history entered into database. this was the first time
presbyterian could stay in boston area . others in 1717 were sent to maine and
worcester to defend the state.
this second wave came in 1775 to a us state. just after catholic priests
were allowed to live . this was due to the catholic frenchnavy in the
revolutionary war.
my irish catholics excepted the invite after 1798 rebellion in ireland and
thomas wolfe
in 1805. by the famine they were third generation
chelsea has always been friendly to imagrants irish polich italians jew
russian armenian ect to today. thats the story i m telling with the genealogy
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so how does this and genetics work
mtdna is female dna ydna is male
so how can mtdna play a part? simple locations,locations locations
if you have a location which is heavely researched . just a ton of paperwork
but some wives if mentioned had no maiden names.So you dont know maybe who
this women is except for the name Mary
Now you have the females decended from Mary maybe thru 1910 .
Marys husband was a pratt. you have in your mailing list 7 people who decend
from that couple 2 might be males decended from Samual Pratt's 6 sons but 5
are females who are decended thru the female lines off of Mary's 7 daughters.
these members are luke warm to all this since maiden names arent available.
How can you be sure all the paperwork is true and people did what they said
they did
so you get all 7 to test .the two males match making them decendents of
Samuel. Now the 5 females test and match exactly proving that they are
decendents
of mary so all 7 are related .immediatly all their paperwork merges
and their trees spread wider more like an elm now then a fir.
but does it stop there you have done the genealogy of this tri town area and
have many Pratts. Included in this paperwork are familes suspected but not
proven to be near the pratts and some never thought to be Pratts
Do you stop testing with these 7 hell no
and people seeing the results fell maybe i can get some new people. As new
people test those suspected to be close to the Pratts with no proof maybe they
lived in prattville . they get their brother to test and his mtdna matches
the 5 sisters decendents and his ydna is his surname Dearborn. Dearborn
recruits his uncle to make sure they match they do but the uncle surprises
everyone
and matches the 5 women decended from mary. Uncle Dearborn has his tree past
the Samuel Pratt and Mary. He looks at his time table to see who might be
the conection. sure enough in the period his tree has Jacob Dearborn and
Priscilla they had 8 kids 5 seemed to survive but only 3 were known to have
paperwork past birth .one of the two undocumented was a Mary so this means
using his
paperwork we find a female decendent of Priscilla. we test her and sure
enough she matches the five decendents of Mary ,Mary,Uncle dearborn, nephew
Dearborn, this means somehow nephew dearborn's mom and uncle dearborns mom were
related to priscilla Jacob's wife
now you merge all the trees involved and the research on the community has
guidance on what to expect to find.
I dont know how many of you have done towns genealogys I have and this is
more then possible even probable
Now i just started The Frosinone Project.Many people migrated to parts of
the world. Now 50+ years later the children want to know am i related to all
mazzolas from san danato as i am a mazzola from there . They pilgramage to
there yearly.one problem its 8 miles from monte casino In the battle with the
germans there was mass bombings all buildings were leveled . all records
destroyed. all grave yards destroyed. only 50 -100 years and no answers
wanna bet ydna makes the families but mtdna connects them.whats needed a
large database with decendents families .Most know the ggrandparents from
american death certs and grave yards.as you accumalate the surname lines and
the
mtdna lines the process above will pay off at least to connect the mazzolas of
the world to san danato
maybe it isnt easy but who said it would be
genealogy never is
Jim Denning -Ygenealogist-MTgenealogist
using Genetics to connect
Chelsea,Ma.-Woburn,Ma.-denning-dennen-danin-dinan-dinihey-denningston-dinning-
carlon-carroll-dever-cogan-malone-heslin-piscopo-mazzola-martini-farrell-mchug
h-farley-grimes-lynch-doherty-SanDanto,Ita-Adargh,longford-Revere,Ma-Wintrop,M
a.- and ever an growing list
List owner of
Irish-dna,Piscopo-l-Heslin-l,McHugh-l,Cogan-l-Machelsea-l,Ita-Frosinone-l,Mazzola-l-Duggan-l
Project Manager of Chelsea Ma. Genetics Project,Denning&Variants
Project-Farrell Genetics Project-The Cogan Project- the Duggan Project- County
Longford
Project-Frosinone Italy Project-Parramatta-Sydney Project- Hannibal
MO-QuincyIL Project-Brighton-NewtonMA Project
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