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From: Patricia Max <>
Subject: Re: [MADKY] Whereabouts of Jesse Oldham the elder,who died ca 1814 Madison Co., KY
Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2007 15:13:07 -0700
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Can someone provide information on which Bartlett Searcy is referenced
below as having been at Boonesborough in 1775 with Daniel Boone?

Thanks.

Patricia Max

Lucy DeYoung wrote:
> The source I have is Miller's genealogy pp. 473-479
>
>
> Jesse Oldham was with Daniel Boone at Boonesborough.
>
> 1. The ancestors of many of the present families of the county came to the
> fort at Boonesborough in 1775, the same year that it was built by Daniel
> Boone. We give here a list of some of the names of the emigrants who came to
> the fort at Boonesborough in that year. It is as follows: Robert Boggs, Wm.
> Bush, Michael Stoner, Jesse Oldham, Joel Walker, John Snoddy, William
> Williams, David Gass, John Kennedy, James Estill, Nathan Hart, Pemberton
> Rollins, William Cooper, Samuel Woods, William Miller, Samuel Tate, john
> Bullock, Hugh Sefer, William Calk, Nicholas Proctor, David Robinson, William
> Robinson, Samuel Woodson, James Hays, Joseph Hughes, David McGee, Oswald
> Townsend, James Yates, John Martin, John Holder, Squire Boone, George Boone,
> Samuel Barker and Bartlett Searcy. Source: Wm. Chenault The
> Courier-Journal: Louisville, Sunday, August 27, 1882, page 12.
>
> 2. Historical Markers and Tablets, The D.A.R. Fort Boonesborough Marker; On
> the top of the stone is the following;
>
> "Site of Fort Boonesborough, 1775-1783." On the side next to the entrance is
> this inscription: "In Memory of the Pioneers of Kentucky. Erected by the
> Boonesborough Chapter D.A.R., 1907." Then passing around the stone counter
> clock-wise appear the names of the following: "Bartlett Searcy, Robert
> Rodes, Pemberton Rollins, Michael Stoner, Peter Taylor, Thomas Tribble, Col.
> Isaac Shelby, Lt. Jared Williams, *Capt. Archibald Woods, Rev. Jas.
> Quisenberry, Christopher Harris, Richard Gentry, Galen White, Enoch Smith,
> James McMillan, Sr., Daniel Boone, Rebecca Boone, Jeimima Boone, Squire
> Boone, William Bentley, Col. Richard Callaway, Betsy Callaway, Frances
> Callaway, Adam Caperton, Gen. Green Clay, Capt. John Holder, Col. John
> Snoddy, Capt. John Kennedy, Capt. William Bush, David Chenault, Capt. James
> Estill, Samuel Estill, Col. Ezekial Field, Col. ****Nathaniel Hart****, Col.
> Richard Henderson, Dr. Hines, Richard Hogan, *Capt. David Gass, Col. Wm.
> Irvine, Abraham Newland, ****Jesse Oldham****, Yelverton Peyton, Anne Cuffey
> Peyton, Thomas Phelps, Josiah Phelps, George Phelps, Lucy Phelps, John
> Phelps, Joseph Proctor."
>
> 3. April 15, 1779 Nicholas Anderson was a signer of the "Corn Compact",
> entered into by the Association of the Settlers of Boonesboro. Others who
> signed include: Nathaniel Hart, Robert Cartwright, Edward Williams, William
> Hall, Thomas Hall, John Harper, Beale Kelley, Peter Harper, ***Jesse
> Oldham***, James Anthony, George Madden, Jesse Peake, Edward Hall, William
> Johnson, John Kelley, Benjamin White, Whitson George and John Cartwright.
> Source: Kentucky Papers, Draper MSS
>
> Jesse Oldham's wife was Elizabeth Simpson. Her sister Sarah married
> Nathaniel Hart who was a member of the Transylvania Company and was one of
> the purchasers of some 20 million acres of land in Kentucky and Tennessee
> from the Indians in 1775. He was one of the original settlers at
> Boonesborough in 1775 and helped construct the fort there. Source: His
> biography from Dictionary of North Carolina Biography edited by William S.
> Powell, Univ. of North Carolina Press, 1988.
>
> Nathaniel Hart was trying to get people to settle in Kentucky and solicited
> many of his family members including Jesse Oldham to join Daniel Boone and
> himself at Boonesborough.
>
> Lucy DeYoung
> www.deyoungmatson.com
>
>
> From: [mailto:] On
> Behalf Of GT
> Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 1:18 PM
> To:
> Subject: Re: [MADKY] Whereabouts of Jesse Oldham the elder,who died ca 1814
> Madison Co., KY
>
> I would be interested in the source for Jesse Oldham being with Boone when
> attacked by Indians at what became Twitty's Fort. I think that local
> historians need to know of this source as Jesse seems to be missing from the
>
> party that blazed the trail.
>
> I have read so many claims of names coming with Boone when the path was
> opened to Boonesborough that I wonder how the Indians were so successful in
> their attack. However, yours is one of few that mention being with Boone at
>
> Twitty's Fort which allows certainly for those who may have come with Boone
> on any of his return trips to Boonesborough.
>
> Gerald Tudor - Madison Co., KY
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lucy DeYoung" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 3:00 PM
> Subject: Re: [MADKY] Whereabouts of Jesse Oldham the elder,who died ca 1814
> Madison Co., KY
>
>
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Jesse Oldham married Elizabeth Simpson October 21, 1757. She was the
>> daughter of Richard Simpson and Mary Kincheloe of Stafford County,
>> Virginia.
>> Her sister Sarah married Nathaniel Hart. The information I have shows
>> that
>> Jesse knew Daniel Boone in North Carolina and Jesse had moved to North
>> Carolina before the Revolution, and lived for a time on the Yadkin River,
>> not a great distance from the Guilford Court-House.
>>
>> "Jesse was married a long time before the war, and had a number of grown
>> children, and several married ones, when he came to Kentucky from the
>> Yadkin
>> River with Colonel Daniel Boone, and was with Colonel Boone and Captain
>> William Twetty at Twetty's Fort, or the Little Fort, were attacked by the
>> Indians...."
>>
>> "It seems that after coming to Kentucky in the company of Colonel Daniel
>> Boone, Jesse Oldham returned to North Carolina and he and one or two of
>> his
>> sons, enlisted in the Revolutionary Army in the North Carolina line. He
>> and
>> his son, and his brothers ... were all in the battle of Guilford Court
>> House."
>>
>> Jesse Oldham came to Madison County, Ky., in the early part of the year
>> 1775, with the company of Colonel Daniel Boone, ... and was with them when
>> attacked by the Indians before daybreak, March 25, 1775 .... Jesse Oldham
>> ... assisted in the building and completion of the Fort at Boonesborough,
>> which work was not completed until June 14, 1775...." "... in 1775, in
>> which
>> year he raised on Ott Creek not far from the Fort, a crop of corn, among
>> the
>> first crops raised in Kentucky soil by white men, and returned to North
>> Carolina, entered the army, and after the war brought his family to
>> Boonesborough, and established his home near the fort, where he lived till
>> his death in 1814.
>>
>> Jesse was born in Prince William County, Virginia about 1736. He was the
>> son
>> of Richard Oldham and Elizabeth Basye.
>>
>> He and his in-laws moved to Caswell County, North Carolina before the
>> Revolutionary War.
>>
>> Elizabeth's aunt also named Elizabeth married James Halley. Their son
>> John
>> was also an early settler at Boonesborough along with his cousins the four
>> Wilkerson boys who were the sons of Sarah Halley Wilkerson Haney. My line
>> goes though James Wilkerson.
>>
>> I am doing a lot of research on the Simpson, Halley and Wilkerson
>> families.
>>
>> I hope this helps.
>>
>> Lucy DeYoung
>>
>> www.deyoungmaton.com
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [mailto:] On
>> Behalf Of
>> Sent: Monday, December 25, 2006 9:54 PM
>> To:
>> Cc: ; ;
>> Subject: [MADKY] Whereabouts of Jesse Oldham the elder,who died ca 1814
>> Madison Co., KY
>>
>> In your e-mail of 12/22 you ask whether Jesse Oldham was at Boonesborough
>> the same time as Daniel Boone.
>>
>> I cannot say this for sure. If you have read much of the activities of
>> Daniel Boone, he was a restless sort and didn't stay anyplace very long.
>> (I am a
>> descendant of his brother George Boone, who seemed to have some
>> disability
>> which kept him from wandering around.) There is a genealogy called The
>> Boone
>> Family, originally published 1922. There is a very brief sketch of the
>> Oldham family.
>>
>> Jesse Oldham of Caswell Co., NC and later of Madison Co., KY, if you can
>> believe everything which is printed, seems to have been in and out of
>> Boonesborough.
>>
>> Are you familiar with the Draper Mss [Lyman Draper Manuscripts]? These
>> were mostly notes, some letters, some clippings collected by Draper by
>> interviewing and collecting items from descendants of pioneers, at least
>> of
>> Kentucky.
>> The section pertaining to KY are called Kentucky Papers. I believe there
>> are almost 200 rolls of film, some of the pages illegible and do not copy
>> well.
>> I had to transcribe while sitting at a microfilm reader at a local
>> University a letter one of my ancestors wrote to Draper concerning his
>> pioneer
>> Kentuckian father.
>>
>> Anyway in this *scrapbook* held by the Historical Society of Wisconsin
>> (who
>>
>> hired Draper and he gave his collection to that Society) is a clipping
>> stating
>> that Jesse Oldham had planted a crop at Boonesborough. This was a
>> requirement, I believe, in order to get a land grant. Oldham is also
>> stated to have
>> delivered letters *from home* [Granville Co., NC] to Col. Richard
>> Henderson
>>
>> while Henderson was at Boonesborough, or at least in Kentucky.
>>
>> I do not recall this last source of information, but it may have been in
>> one
>> of the set of volumes called The Colonial Records of North Carolina.
>>
>> _The Colonial records of North Carolina : published under the supervision
>> of
>> the trustees of the public libraries, by order of the General Assembly_
>>
>>
> (http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?di
>
>> splay=t
>> itledetails&titleno=641486&disp=The+Colonial+records+of+North+Carolina)
>> Weeks, Stephen Beauregard, 1865-1918
>>
>> There are 270 microfiches of these made by the Family History Library in
>> Salt Lake City. There is a BIG index in the last volume. If Henderson's
>> correspondence is not in this set of books, it is in a companion set
>> called
>>
>> something like The State Papers [or Records] of North Carolina. These,
>> too, are
>> probably on microfiche at the Family History Library.
>>
>> Here is a reference to a deposition quoted in a book:
>>
>> In a Kentucky deposition given by Jesse Oldham on 3 March 1802 in Madison
>> Co.. KY "taken at an improvement of Nathaniel Hart, deceased," he, Jesse,
>> stated he was "aged 72 years" (p. 668 of Fayette Co., VA [now Kentucky]
>> Records.)
>> He stated that he came to Kentucky from North Carolina in the year
>> 1775....
>> In the year 1775 he, together with Nathaniel Hart [his brother-in-law,
>> both married to Simpson sisters] and others planted a crop of corn at
>> Boonesborough. He came out to Kentucky again in the spring of 1779 at
>> which time he
>> together with Nathaniel Hart and others made his choice at the mouth of
>> the
>>
>> branch or near that leads up towards Twitty's fort..."
>>
>> (Michael & Bettie Cook, FAYETTE CO., KY RECORDS, V. I [Evansville, IN:
>> Cook
>> Publications], 1985, p. 187-188) [LAPL Gen R 976.91, F28CO, V. I]).
>>
>> If you know anything about Richard Henderson and his land speculations,
>> he
>> was aiming to set up a proprietorship of vast areas of Kentucky--and also
>> Tennessee, as I understand it. The American Revolution dashed his hopes.
>>
>> Nathaniel Hart was one of the eight proprietors. Henderson had hired
>> Daniel Boone
>> to set up the trail--or guide the interested parties--to Boonesborough.
>>
>> There are so many more details of Boonesborough that I highly recommend
>> an
>> oldish book called Boonesborough by George W. Ranck. The appendices are
>> especially interesting to some of us genealogists. Should you have
>> access
>> to the
>> online genealogical database called HeritageQuest [subscriptions are by
>> libraries and some societies only--not to individuals] there is a
>> digitized
>>
>> version of said book. It was originally published by the Filson Club,
>> Louisville,
>> KY and may be available on interlibrary loan--o possibly at a local
>> college
>>
>> or University. Possibly the Family History Library has filmed it.
>>
>> I have done most of my research in books and films and not the internet,
>> but
>> some of these sources may now be on the internet--such as the book
>> Boonesborough.
>>
>> Happy hunting!
>>
>> E.W.Wallace
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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