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From: bob gillis <>
Subject: Re: [MAESSEX] Mary PILLAR m to John Phillips, 1744
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 09:39:03 -0500
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MY scenario:

Mary Ramsdill married James Pillar 1731.

James Pillar drowned bef 11 Sep 1742. Drowning usually not recorded.

John Grant filed intention to marry mary Pillar 11 Sep 1742. marriage
never took place, probably as John also drowned.

Mary Pillar married John Phillips in Cambridge 19 Jun 1744.

She may be the Mary Ramsdell born in Lynn 18 Dec 1702 to Jonathon and a
anna.


Bob Carroll wrote:

> Posting to both MAMiddle and MAEssex as both seem involved.
>
> Looking for identity of Mary PILLAR \ Piller who married John Phillips
> [b 1720/1 Watertown]
> John Phillips married Mary Pillar [of Marblehead, int.] 19 Jun 1744,
> Cambridge, Middlesex MA
> [Middlesex Co VR CD:; Cambridge 2:307]
> Rootsweb files have her born 1720 - 1725 with no sources.
>
> I have searched VR of Essex and Middlesex for Mary. Only possible
> links seem:
>
> Piller, "James [a stranger, int.], and Mary [Mercy int.] Ramsdill,"
> married July 27 1731. [Lynn 2:304]
>
> Mary Pillar of Salem and John Grant, int. Sept 11 1742. PR 22
> [Marblehead, Vol III, supplement p22. ]
> also as Mary Piller, and John Grant of Marblehead, int Sept 11,
> 1742, [Salem 4:198]
>
> It seems rather a stretch to have
> Mary/Mercy Ramsdill 1st marry, 1731, James Piller [a stranger], Lynn
>
> Then as Mary Pillar marries (or intent only), to John Grant, 1742
> Marblehead.
>
> Then as Mary Pillar (of Marblehead) she marries John Phillips, 1744 in
> Cambridge.
>
> No deaths found of a James Piller or John Grant.
>
> Yet, Pillar/Piller is uncommon name, [it only occurs 3 times in Essex
> Co VR and once in Middlesex] and the dates fit.
>
> Anyone have any other sources or ideas? Were there two Mary Pillars?
> Bob Carroll
>
>


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