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Subject: Re: [MARTIN-HENRY] Lucy Martin
Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 16:52:06 -0400
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Does anyone have a Clarence Edgar Martin son of Henry A. according to New Concord,Ky 1900 census. Henry died in 1913 in Brandon,Ky.  My Henry seems to be a very unknown person other than 1900 1910 census.


-----Original Message-----
From: Teresa Klaiber <>
To:
Sent: Thu, 7 May 2009 8:22 am
Subject: Re: [MARTIN-HENRY] Lucy Martin








Yes thank you. I have information in my database which I believe I compiled
when working with Kay several years ago.

My line is Henry - John - John - James H - Wilson - Henry Foster - John
Shouse - Henry Kautz - John Geer - Teresa Martin Klaiber [me]

-----Original Message-----
From:
[mailto:] On Behalf Of DEBORAH CRIDDLE
Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 9:13 PM
To:
Subject: Re: [MARTIN-HENRY] Lucy Martin


My line is Henry - Benjamin - Benjamin - Abner - Thomas - John - James -
Keziah Martin - Phyllis Potter - Jones (ME)

Deborah Criddle



> From:
> To:
> Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 10:00:04 -0400
> Subject: Re: [MARTIN-HENRY] Lucy Martin
>
> Would u share your line. Are you Russell's daughter or another? I know I
> don't have that line complete. Mine is Henry - John - John - James H. -
> Wilson - Henry Foster Martin - John Shouse Martin- Henry Kautz Martin -
John
> Geer Martin - Teresa Lynn Martin www.deliverancefarm.com
>
>
> Do you want my citation
s/ ie Wilson? Do you have pictures of Wilson? If
not
> give email will share pics. After 35 years research got DAR supplemental
of
> John. He was patriot supplied beef. You qualify.
>
> Had not reviewed materials in while - have to do list. Need to check
Shelby
> County deeds for the land referenced Lucy at John death and to son John B.
> Need to check Fayette County for what happened to land Mary Baxter Martin
> got from James and see what happened to Matilda. What information do you
> have on John B?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> [mailto:] On Behalf Of Helen Stewart
> Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 7:02 AM
> To:
> Subject: Re: [MARTIN-HENRY] Lucy Martin
>
> Hello,
> Your information is very interesting and helpful. I am a descendent of
> Wilson Martin, the son of James H Martin and Susan Olive. My parents grew
> up in Lincoln Co KY.
> Sue Martin Stewart
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> [mailto:] On Behalf Of DEBORAH CRIDDLE
> Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 11:25 PM
> To:
> Subject: Re: [MARTIN-HENRY] Lucy Martin
>
>
> I totally agree. My daughter, Stephanie and I were looking at this and it
> just doesn't make since. I think everyone is linking this family wrong.
> There has got to be another generation in there we are missing. Is it
> possible they have the same names? Yes, of course, we20see that a lot
around
> this time frame.
>
>
>
> I have another line (Gunnels) that is the same way. Everybody named
> everyone with the same names and it is has made it really a lot of fun
> working it out.
>
>
>
> Let me throw this out to you. Is it possible that Todd isn't even her last
> name?
>
> Deborah Criddle
>
>
>
> > From:
> > To:
> > Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 22:56:27 -0400
> > Subject: Re: [MARTIN-HENRY] Lucy Martin
> >
> > Yes of course a typo 1748-1813. Sorry.
> >
> > The marriage of John Martin and Lucy Todd in 1742 in King Geo Co cannot
> > possibly be the correct Lucy who married John 1748-1813 of Spotsylvania
> > County. And it now has been duplicated on several places on the web
which
> > frustrates me.
> >
> > Lucy is buried in Jessamine County, Kentucky and her tombstone gives her
> > birth date as 3 Dec 1761. She was much younger than John. Their first
> > child was born between 1780-90 which fits her coming of child bearing
> years.
> > John who dies in Spotsylvania in 1813 was born about 1748 -the 1748 date
> is
> > estimated as he was a minor and the orphan son of John who died in 1748.
> > Even if that date is off by a few years he would not be getting married
in
> > 1742 and be an orphan minor in 1748.
> >
> > And even if the tombstone of Lucy was misread - I have visited it and it
> is
> > very wo
rn - and she was born in the 1740's closer to the age of hubby
she
> > cannot be the Lucy that married in 1742. The John and Lucy of King
George
> > County thus being of a different generation.
> >
> > Her chronology:
> >
> > 1761 Birth Date {Howard Teater, JESSAMINE CO Kentucky CEM REC VOL 2, p
> 51,}
> > cemetery photos 1994 taken by Teresa Martin Klaiber
> >
> >
> > 1780, Ap 20 John Martin Spts Co and [BLANK] his wife to James Marye of
> > co. 800 lbs 100a in St Geo Parish. No wit. 20 Ap 1780
> >
> > 1780 ABOUT child James H born
> >
> > 1784 Feb, 19 deed of Mary Pottet w/o John land to son John Penny.
Witness
> > included James Hawkins, Jno. Martin, Lucy Martin Virginia CO REC
> > Vol 1, Wm Crozier, 1978 p 378 [Mary m---Penny 2 John Skeaths/Skeats 3
> > John Pottet]
> >
> > 1786, Feb 26 , Orange County, Virginia Will of JAMES HAWKINS "...item I
> > give to
> > my grand daughter LUCY MARTAIN wife of John Martane of Spotsylvania
> > County one Negro man...one Negro girl...is now in possession of
> > John Martain..." [C Conser, Orange Co Va Clerks Office WBk 3-105/6
> > microfilm roll, drawer 0-34 - ] {note 1782 James Hawkins
> > listed in 1782 Orange 2 white 4 black
> >
> >
> > 1813 Mar James H. marries in Spotsylvania County to Susan Olive
> > 1813 Probate 3 May Spotsylvania Co Va cited as widow/o John
> >
> > 1820 Census Fayette Co Ky
> >
> > 1821 Spotsylvania Co Va DB W p
384 agrees to dispose of 200 a
> > of decd husband to son John for 1500 acres in SHELBY Co Ky
> >
> > 1823 Jessamine Co Ky Tax Lists LDS 0008084 p 24 no acres 1-1-1-1
> > 1824 Jessamine Co Ky Tax Lists LDS 0008084 p 22 no land 2-1-2-1
> > 1825 Jessamine Co Ky Tax Lists LDS 0008084 p 22 2-2-2-1
> > 1828 Jessamine Co Ky Tax Lists LDS 0008084 p 30 0-2-3-3
> > 1828 Jessamine Co Ky; m consent; daugh Lucy to Benj Marshall
> > 1829 Jessamine Co Ky Tax Lists LDS 0008084 p 35 0-2-2-3
> > 1830 Jessamine Co Census 1 male under 5, 2 males 20-30, two females
20-30
> > one femal 70-80
> > 1830 Jessamine Co Ky Tax Lists LDS 0008084, p 30 line 5 0-2-3-4
> > 1833 1 Sep Jessamine Co Ky; prop to be sold at d
> > 1834 2 Jan death from tombstone
> > 1834 8 Feb Jessamine Co Ky Probate Inv [mrtn.008]
> > 1834 14 Feb, Jessamine Co Ky acct of sale [Jessamine Co D-471,
> > MARTIN FAMILY QTLY Vol VI, May 1980, p 7,
> > and typed KHS notes in KHS Martin vf,]
> >
> > BURIAL: Clyde Hayden Farm, 1255 Logana Road Note:close to Marble Crk &
> > Marble Crk Rd 1994}
> > Bronaugh-Sherley Cemetery Jessamine Jessamine County, Kentucky
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:
> > [mailto:] On Behalf Of DEBORAH CRIDDLE
> > Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 10:27 PM
> > To:
> > Subject: Re: [MARTIN-HENRY] Lucy Martin
> >
> >
> > Hi Theresa, long time since we have ta
lked to each other.
> >
> >
> >
> > Your dates on This is Lucy wife of John 1848-1813. are strange. I am
> > assuming you mean 1748 -1813?
> >
> >
> >
> > Peggy and Alicia Tipton gave me the information of Lucy Todd and John
> > Martin. They stated that Todd and Hawkins were her parents.
> >
> >
> >
> > I just came across a marriage record on-line stating 05 Nov 1742 in King
> > George County, Virginia a Lucy Todd and John Martin were married.
> >
> >
> > Deborah Criddle
> >
> >
> >
> > > From:
> > > To:
> > > Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 19:54:14 -0400
> > > Subject: Re: [MARTIN-HENRY] Lucy Martin
> > >
> > > Thanks for quick reply. I have that Lucy as well in database. This is
> Lucy
> > > wife of John 1848-1813. After John died in Spots Co she moved to KY
and
> > > died ther 1834. She is cited in a will as the grand daughter of a
James
> > > Hawkins but I can't figure out if it is maternal or paternal.
> > >
> > > Sure miss talking with Kay and Peggy.
> > >
> > > Benjamin 1st cousin to my John. John s/o John and Ann and grandson of
> > > Henry.
> > >
> > > Ancestry has my John married to Lucy Todd which has never panned out
for
> > me
> > > either. Wrong age wrong place wrong time but seems whoever submitted
to
> > > Ancestry thought since that was the "published record" of a John in
that
> >=2
0> area it must be correct. All I know for certain is the Hawkins
> connection.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From:
> > > [mailto:] On Behalf Of
> > > Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 7:35 PM
> > > To:
> > > Subject: Re: [MARTIN-HENRY] Lucy Martin
> > >
> > > I have a Lucy Martin in my line....show year of birth as 1762, parents
> are
> >
> > > Benjamin and Sarah Martin. Married John McClure 28 Nov 1786 in
Lincolin
> > > County, KY, had daughter Sarah "Sally" McClure, born 1795 in KY. Hope
> this
> >
> > > helps. Sue C Martin
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